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Sri Isopanishad Class

Class on Sri Isopanishad. We will begin Feb 1. Please buy the book! I will be posting Srila Prabhupada lectures. There will be tests on both lectures and the book!  This will also be a discussion-based class.  If you have problems with English, It's ok! That's what Babelfish is for!  EVERYONE IS WELCOME!!!! JAYA SRI RADHA-KRISHNA!!!!

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Comment on Mantra 11 of Sri Isopanisad by Dr. A. Smith Prabhu, ACBSP

Started by Ananta Sesa dasa, Bh.S. Last reply by Ananta Sesa dasa, Bh.S Nov 6, 2014. 2 Replies

Comment on Mantra 9 of Sri Isopanisad by Dr. A. Smith Prabhu, ACBSP

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Comment on Mantra 8 of Sri Isopanisad, by Dr. A.Smith Prabhu, ACBSP

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Comment on Sri Isopanisad Mantra 7, c/o Dr. A. Smith Prabhu, Oct 2014

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Commentary on Mantra 6 of Sri Isopanisad

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relationships, natural observation, the nature of the self

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Commentary on Mantra 4 and 5 of Sri Isopanisad, by Prof. A. Smith, ACBSP

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Sri Isopanisad, mantra 3 comments, Prof. Arnold Smith Prabhu. Sept , 2014

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Sri Isopanisad Mantra 2 comments, Prof. Arnold Smith, September 17, 2014

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Sri Isopanisad Mantra 1 Posted by Arnold Smith on September 12, 2014

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Sri Isopanisad, Intro. Posted by Arnold Smith on September 10, 2014

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Sri Isopanisad Narration, David Lugan

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Comment by Tamohara d co-tp. Editor Bh.S on September 29, 2014 at 4:20pm
Comment by Tamohara d co-tp. Editor Bh.S on September 29, 2014 at 3:55pm

Arnold smith Prabhu; Re mantra 5 preceding;

Wow! Nice!

Srila Sridhara Maharajah used to speak, that a sadhu can harmonize the incongruent, ie that the contradictory can be reconciliated in the consciousness of spirit.

I really appreciate Prabhu Smith's description of the rock and the animal; both co-exist, and although apparently in different modes, Godhead is within each. As Srila Prabhupada says, paraphrase, "I know my pains and pleasures, and you know yours... but Krsna is within each and knows well everyone's pains and pleasures." Thus, it is possible to understand how He sees and yet has no eyes, hears but has not ears,  both at the same time, as He is not limited to normal time and space, like an ordinary conditioned soul.

A broadness of thinking seems to be required of us; and there seems to be no end. All i want/need is a firm foothold in some aspect of the eternal lilas, then i am safe against repeated births and deaths in temporary designations in matter of all kinds.

Gour Govinda Swami tells us that sadhana bhakti is too weak, that in our age, sadhana siddha, or perfection obtained by restrictions and practices, is unattainable, that in reality, it is all krpa siddha, ie by Divine Grace, that somehow or other our attempts are appreciated and we are allowed to rise.

It can be maddening to realize that our current state of mind is restricted, shrunken, warped and plain old dumb as a post in Siberia. A moment of purer consciousness reveals the dreck from the nectar, and one hankers for more nectar, having once tasted.


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Comment by Ananta Sesa dasa, Bh.S on September 29, 2014 at 8:08am

Comment on Mantra 5 of Sri Ispoanisad:

In this mantra, we see what appears to the human mind as a series of contradictions. From the standpoint of logic, one can either walk or not walk. One can either be near or far. It would be a contradiction to claim both statements as true at the same time. The principle of bivalence dictates that a statement is either true or false. Therefore, if the statement "He is walking" is true, then the statement "He is not walking" must be false. However, it is important to remember that traditional categorical or sentential logic is relevant only to the material world. When one is concerned with the Divine, a higher logic, a higher Truth, must be embraced.

This passage is used to describe the transcendental nature and activities of the Supreme Lord. It is interesting to note that many religious traditions have used this approach to helping devotees of their faith to understand the nature of God. The Taoist text Tao Te Ching begins with similar contradictions and the Gnostic Text "Thunder/Perfect Mind" as well. Through these seeming contradictions individuals may come to understand that what is impossible for man is possible for God, since all things are possible for God.

The Supreme Lord may walk and not walk at the same time, and be near as well as far, because the potencies of the Lord are transcendent. The energy and potency of the Lord is found within all things, and so the Lord (in a sense) is always acting. So, the Lord is found within animal and so is in motion. He is within rock and so is still. God is within ourselves and so is near, but is also beyond the material sky, thus making Him far away.

 Since our minds cannot grasp the nature of God through our own efforts, we must demonstrate our desire to know, but to know enough to know that we need this demonstration, we need a starting point. Scripture is this starting point, and the seeming contradictions of this text are the starting point. Through them we can come to realize that God is beyond traditional knowledge and that the Absolute Truth is not to be known through words, but through experience. Many people cannot see the Lord no matter how close He is to them, but to the genuine devotee, the Lord is always present.

Comment by Tamohara d co-tp. Editor Bh.S on October 16, 2013 at 6:44am

 

Tittenhurst
15 October, 1969
My Dear Brahmananda,
Please accept my blessings. I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated October 12, 1969 and have noted the contents. Regarding your question about Mantra 12 of Isopanisad, the verse as it is, is correct. The Absolute means Brahman, Paramatma and Bhagavan. When the Absolute is realized hazily it is Brahman. When the Absolute is realized more clearly it is Paramatma. And when the Absolute is realized distinctly it is Bhagavan. So Brahman, Paramatma and Bhagavan are different phases of the Absolute Truth. But the Bhagavan aspect of the Absolute Truth is distinct from everything. Those who worship the Brahman and Paramatma aspect of the Absolute Truth are in a dangerous position because they have every chance of again falling down into the lowest regions. This is because they are not fully purified, and the least trace of contaminated desire can cause havoc to one's progress. Just like one lit cigarette can cause a whole house to burn down, so incomplete knowledge of the whole Absolute Truth may not be able to save one from going to the darkest regions of ignorance. Isopanisad says that such persons who accept Brahman or Paramatma as the final word of God-realization will be "still more'' condemned. This is because they are offenders of God and are very stubborn to accept the Supreme Personality. If one refuses to progress to understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead, then he is sure to fall down again into darkness. The worshippers of the demigods at least have fear of some higher personality, and that may eventually develop into fear of the Supreme Personality. But the impersonalists think that everything is Brahma, everyone is God, therefore they can do whatever they want; and that is a still more dangerous position. I think this will clear up the matter for you.
I hope this will meet you in good health.
Your ever well-wisher,
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
PS: Isopanisad means "the knowledge that leads nearer to Krsna.'' I am returning herewith the Gita Press book you sent me for the Sanskrit Text. It is nice.

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Letter to: Brahmananda -- Tittenhurst 15 October, 1969
Comment by Tamohara d co-tp. Editor Bh.S on November 8, 2012 at 7:39am

Comment by Parvati Devi Dasi A. Bh.S on April 22, 2012 at 8:24am

Bhakta Trino Prabhu has passed:)


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Comment by Parvati Devi Dasi A. Bh.S on February 16, 2012 at 8:42am

Tomorrow I am posting the next discussion:)

 
 
 

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