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We to protect innocent people from ISKCON bogus gurus. That is the most important thing. Someone seeking Krishna should not be mislead by a bogus guru cheater. That is the worst thing possible.
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Don, very, very good point. After all it is called Krishna Consciousness, not Guru or Rtvik Consciousness.
Mukunda das, you don’t need to worry about innocent people being mislead. There are reams and reams and reams of accusations and counter-arguments already on the Internet, so you need not waste your time writing anymore. All the guru-rtvik nonsense has been discussed over and over and over again. Let’s move on.
Any sincere person interested in KC can read the various claims by both the Rtviks and ISKCON and make their own decision.
People seem more interested in gossip and finger-pointing than actual devotional service. ISKCON is gone, poof, forget about it. Let us lead our lives the way Prabhupada has shown.
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pamho prabhus agtACBSP, krsna consciousness is already there in the heart of all living entities,
nitya siddha krsna-prema ‘sadhya’ kabhu naya
sravanadi-suddha-citte karaye udaya“Love for Krsna, devotion for Krsna, is within everyone’s heart, but we have forgotten. So this Krsna consciousness movement is simply meant for awakening that dormant love, by giving everyone the chance to hear about Krsna. This is the process.” [Madhya 22.107]
Our material situation can break at any time. Therefore when one actually understands that he is trapped in the jailhouse of the material world he will engage himself 24 hrs a day in devotional service.
In this way we become connected with the spiritual world beyond institution.
Sometime people forget that the real tool to use to become free is our own body, mind and intelligence.
“If one engages himself seriously in devotional service, working with body, mind and intelligence, he is sure to be successful in going back home, back to Godhead.” [SB4.21.33]
At present the world cannot be saved by deviant Vaishnava institutions, but we can at least save ourselves with devotional service to SRILA PRABHUPADA who is independent too because HE already got all that mercy while we are still on the way out.
Therefore it is better to leave all the gossip behind and getting liberated by daily sadhana bhakti, how Prabhupada taught us.
agtys ys
a.c. seva das
haribol
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There are people of every religion and movement in the material world twisting the original Truth found therein.
The most successful devotees of God were not found spending time in trying to revive old institutions.
Let us not forget that Prabhupada was not a member of ISKON. There was no ISKON before Prabhupada came over here with 7 dollars and created it to help us. ISKON is a tool, given by Prabhupada, but like any tool in the material world, tools can break.
Whether or not ISKON is broken is not a claim I am trying to make. Only that it is a tool, and it should be remembered as such. All the people we love in ISKON are also independent of ISKON, and so is our relationship with them.
It is not ISKON that will awaken individuals, but Krishna and devotional service, both completely independent of ISKON. Unlike ISKON, an organization or idea, Krishna and our devotional service to Him have no starting point or ending point, no creation date, or birth date- whatever ISKON is can only be a reflection of our relations in the spiritual world.
There are plenty of people out there ready to hear the message of God- the poorest of the poor, who know nothing of ISKON, and they don’t need to know anything of ISKON.
In fact, if you have trouble talking about God and devotional service outside of ISKON, and its terminology, I begin to think either one is very bad at communication through talking, or one must not actually be living the words they are trying to speak. As Prabhupada says in The Teachings of Lord Caitanya, A Krishna Conscious devotee will have so much to say about Krishna, 24 hours a day is not enough.
24 hours a day, not enough to talk about Krishna. So lets spend more tme bringing the consciousness back on Him directly. Lets take the straight way
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