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Narayana Maharaja’s Society Threatened by Corporatism
Haribol! Dandavat pranams to you Prabhuji,
I have been following the developments in our sangha with dismay and alarm ever since the samadhi of my diksha Guru Srila Narayan Maharaj. First, the whole sangha was shocked when no successor acharya was announced because it flew in the face of everything Srila NM stood for, especially his corrections of the ISKCON GBC deviations as not following proper Vaishnava parampara. And we were presented with him as the true successor acharya of ISKCON.
But now, he leaves the planet, and suddenly we have a new imitation ISKCON, called the International Pure bhakti Yoga Society (IPBYS). And we have a new imitation GBC management Board with the most senior sanyasi, BV Madhava Maharaj designated to be the first Chairman…
Well, I started to debate with them since we have been against GBC for so long, it didn’t even make sense. And this was all being propsed to us by Brajanath Dasa who I don’t even like, because if he is a senior Vaishnava, how come he is not learned in Shastra? how come he says things like having all the sanyasis become independent initiating Gurus is harmless?
And didn’t we who took shelter of Srila Narayan Maharaj do so trusting that this was Gaudiya Math and not like corporate ISKCON, and not like the 11 zonal acharyas and then the 100 or 1,000 rubber-stamped gurus and now, we are worse!
But even that…even that is not the worst of it. Then suddenly one of the senior Sanyasis, BV Tirtha Maharaj is promoting a senior brahmachari Srimad Premanande for the chairman position in opposition to Brajanath’s proposal (he says from Srila Gurudeva’s mouth) of BV Madhava.
Okay, that even is a small thing. All these alarming developments are small things.
Now they have Paypal accounts. Separate accounts in (nobody know’s whose name) for all these projects and things like fancy memorial Harmonist Magazine production (when subscribers already are paying a fee for it, why do they need donations to cover the cost?) And now they have Paypal account to take requested donations of $25 or $50 (I’m bankrupt btw) to send in to cover all the costs of the prasadam for Parikrama. they admit 1,000′s will attend but only expect a “few hundred” westerners.
Someone asked the Maharaj why this extra donation was needed since the attendees will already be paying a fee to attend the event. I was on Facebook and I watched as this comment immediately got deleted and a long, windy explanation given about how the worldwide sangha is asked to contribute, how the 2,600 friends of the Maharaja, raising approximately $130,000 will feed the poor starving Bengali’s who attend and don’t want to be disappointed in their memory of Srila Gurudeva.
Okay,
Even THAT is not the most alarming thing.
This is. And I have not yet recovered and can barely bring myself to write to you.
Since Srila Narayan Maharaja’s disappearance, we have been receiving articles about “communication” “relationships” “harmony.” All of a sudden, it’s the only thing we are reading. there is no Hari-Katha, only this…relationship stuff.
And that is fine. After some complaints on the forum (largely from myself) demanding they explain the parampara and precisely where Srila gurudeva said every sanyasi can become a diksha guru….we are informed the seniors are writing a position paper.
But in the meantime, all this “relationship” psychology “stuff.”
We don’t even know what is the mission statement for the new society! We don’t even know who is the chairman! I guess they will vote on that when they have their first meeting.
So, one of the senior sanyasis, BV Nemi Maharaj has been writing all these relationship articles. And it’s all seemed positive.
Initially, the new process involves the following aspects.
1. Local groups
Local groups of two, three or more devotees are committed to taking part in the process. They discuss the framework amongst themselves, and begin to act within it.
2. Communication
We need a means of communication between the groups, for association, encouragement, and to ascertain what is working and what does not work so well. This means of communication will presumably be over the Internet, and may well include exchanges through Skype or some other audiovisual means of communication.
3. The central coordinating group
The central coordinating group takes responsibility for the project and facilitates its stepwise development; supports the local groups and facilitates exchanges between them; collates and digests information from the local groups; collects external resources; forwards information to the local groups; and consults with the local coordinators to find out about the process, progress and needs at the local level.
4. Local coordinators
Each local group has a coordinator who communicates with the central coordinator/coordinating group and with other coordinators. Coordinators are not in any sense managers or directors. Their function is simply to relay information and moods within the project as a whole.
Setting up the initial stages
Okay, so you can see, they don’t even have any plan even by January, of how to lead this sangha. And what they are presenting is very juvenile, like what a college freshman would learn in a basic course.
“Recently, I made a presentation on Bhakti Sanga Development to a group of about 20 devotees in Krasnoyarsk in Siberia.”
So you see the actual level of where we are at. Now prepare for the shock…
Suddenly, the only people who are really putting up directives to the sangha are all about relationships and communication workshops. And we get articles like this, “A Paradigm Shift,” by by Srimati Syamarani dasi.
On the last day, after hearing from several of the devotees there, she said to me, “You know, Syamarani didi, when you give classes, it seems you are not aware of whether or not your audience is receiving what you say. It seems you are not aware of what they need. It seems you just enjoy yourself speaking. If you take a Satvatove workshop, it will help you connect with your audience. If you agree to go, I will give you $100 to pay for the registration fee.”
Although I was surprised that anyone would think my classes weren’t perfect for my audiences, I tried to be humble and I accepted her critique. I agreed to attend, but I was still very fearful that it would be against bhakti. I was fearful up to the very day of the workshop. The workshop would begin at 9.am. So, right after mangala arati I went to Srila Gurudeva’s room to ask him what he thought. He had already given blessings to Vrnda devi, Brajanath prabhu’s good wife, who had helped organize the workshop, but I wanted to hear directly from Gurudeva. So, I told him what Hariballabha told me, and asked what I should do. He replied, “You should know that in and of itself it is not bhakti. But if it helps with your preaching, then it is good; it is favorable.”
Okay. Brajanath Prabhu’s wife…organizes this workshop and gets all the seniors to attend…and people are even paying their registration fees…
“Please didi tell what paradigm shift you have experienced after attending satvatov?”
There it is. We’ve been completely hijacked by the Satvatove Institute. Completely.
“In following the desire of Srila Gurudeva to teach devotee association and relationships, the Harmony Program was created with the aim to facilitate workshops and seminars for devotees who wish to promote meaningful and fulfilling dealings in our Vaisnava Community.”
How come if our Guru told Syamarani that this isn’t Bhakti, but it’s okay if it gives you “tools” for preaching…and now suddenly it’s the ‘desire of Srila Gurudeva?” And it’s a hard sell too…
Narayani says:
January 31, 2011 at 10:31 PM
“Not for me, I’ve done it and did not like it !”
Bhadra dasi says:
February 1, 2011 at 7:05 AM
“I humbly suggest that you did not like it because it was too threatening to your false self, your false ego. Maybe it challenged you to look deeply at your inner self, and you found that too painful to do; so your conscious mind formed the opinion that you “didn’t like it”. These ideas are not necessarily applying to you; I am just making suggestions.”
“These workshops are really good, excellent in fact; and many devotees get a lot of growth, relief and improvement in their lives as a result of attending them, and they are very thankful they attended.
So may I ask that those who choose not to attend please do not speak against them, especially if you do not really know what they are about and are only guessing, and trying to analyse from the outside.”
“This year, after the Navadvipa Mandala Parikrama, devotees are invited to attend a 3-day workshop — from March 23th through 25th, 9am to 6pm — named “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People” based on the proven principles found in Dr. Stephen R. Covey’s best-selling organizational effectiveness book. Braja Mohan prabhu is a certified facilitator in the 7 Habits program for organizational transformation, and leadership effectiveness. He has done a wonderful job in translating the program, making it extremely suitable and applicable to our Vaisnava Community to help us prepare for growth.”
Holy Salesmanship! What happened to Hari-Katha? What happened to the gopis Divine rupanuga rasika bhakti?
“Braja Mohan has a rich experience working in the corporate and private sectors as a Senior Level Business Advisor, Facilitator & Master Trainer, Performance Coach, facilitating Organizational Learning & Development.
Senior Consultant driving business outcomes through culture and organizational transformation, leadership effectiveness, B2B sales effectiveness, change, strategic engagement, building high performance teams, creating winning culture & sustained superior performance, developing next level leaders, managers, and facilitators.
Braja Mohan has broad experience at diagnosing, designing and delivering solutions that produce sustainable organizational results.
Have worked with/consulted: United Nations, J.P Morgan, Franklin Covey, Microsoft, IBM, Ericsson, Motorola, Toyota, City Bank, Deutche Bank, Hewitt, Cisco, Taj Hotels, ICICI, Tata, Maruti, Agilent, Oracle and many others…..”
Now seriously, my mouth dropped. WHY would a mayavadi guy who is a paid consultant for the United Nations and Deutche Bank be leading seminars for Srila Narayan Maharaja’s little group, when our most senior sanyasis can’t even get a roomful of 20 people in SIBERIA to listen to their Hari Katha?
I mean, it’s just so off the wall that the only thing our movement is about now…is psychology? I mean, I could go back to college and take all these courses in freshman year if I thought that was the solution to the world’s problems…Seriously, I was informed that Srila narayan Maharaj was the successor to Srila Prabhupada, and I KNOW for a fact that Srila Prabhupada’s movement of Krishna Consciousness was not about this fee-based mayavadi self-help garbage, or privately owned businesses and corporations owned and operated by David Wolf (Dhira Govinda Das) of Satvatove.
“Suggested donation: 550 Rupees (or more, as you like).
Includes Participant Guidebook and 3 days prasadam (Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner)
Upon completing the form below you will receive an email with
Paypal payment details (use your Paypal account or preferred credit card).”
You know the Satvatove workshops go for $950 USD. Why is such a capable man, like this Braja Das, who is paid consultant for BILLIONAIRE corporations accepting peanuts from a handful of Hare Krishnas? And to teach them what? How to be successful business executives?
It doesn’t make sense.
“As much as I apply the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People and the Transformative Communications principles in my sanga-related services for the mission of Srila Gurudeva and Srila Prabhupada, everything goes so much better. I look forward to be with you at both seminars.”—Syamarani dasi
And our senior Vaishnavas, who cannot seem to say anything else other than become advertizers for the “new paradigm” of Srila Gurudeva’s movement, and take a backseat while they teach us all how to do Vaishnavism right.
DEMONS and SCOUNDRELS are imitating Vaishnavas. This is something evil afoot. Maya wants to control and destroy any movement or message of Krishna Consciousness in this world. My plan now is to take shelter of Srila prabhupada’s books and Srila Narayan Maharaja’s books, and because Srila NM said that Srila Prabhupada was the senior and the foremost Mahabhagavat, His books will take precedence and seniority even though I am diksha disciple of Srila Narayan Maharaj.
But I WILL NOT take shelter of these Vaishnavas and their Oprah Winfrey Self-help Mayavadi asuric psychologists.
Now I do understand the Ritvik position, that in the absence of the Mahabhagavat, there is no one in the world to take shelter of. Srila Narayan Maharaj was my link to Srila Prabhupada, and I take shelter of Him and His Krishna Consciousness movement. We had a very sweet sangha. But now I do not know what we have.
HARE KRSNA
Pamho-ALL Glories to Srila Prabhupada
His Divine Grace A.C,Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada
All this NOT a surprise…..Watch the whole thing break up into fighting camps
Srila Prabhupada explained to US his disciples what exactly happened to Gaudia Math
History Repeats itself -come back-SP disciples-Take shelter of Iskcon and Srila Prabhupada and help YOUR Diksa original guru. Impossible is a word in a fools dictionary
Thats my take
Your servant,
Jaya Madhava Das (acbsp)
What if Srila Narayan Maharaj was our diksha guru and we aren’t from ISKCON?
This is about our spiritual lives and what we desire from this life. The devotees in our Vaisnava society have to make some very hard decisions on where and who we shall serve with in this life. I am presenting that the International Society of Vaisnavas is being taken over by impersonalists. It is up to us to decide what we shall personally do about it. Educate ourselves. We are supposed to be Brahmins we must not stick our heads in the sand like an ostrich. Mr Wolf is offering dubious material solutions. The so called scholars in ISKCON are engaging our movement in religious sycretism. Our leaders should be well versed in the lures of maya and protect us from them not support and encourage them in our society. If they don’t then who will? Is this Krsna’s plan that the Vaisnava society the solution to suffering in this Kali yuga is to become brahmavadis? Without opposition. This is the battle we now face. It starts in our hearts. Srila Prabhupada gave us all the tools needed to fight this battle but we have not understood that our leaders have become our enemies…
when SPrabhupad left, new western boys took an impire; when Srila Naryaana Gosvami left, borned devotees bengali sadhankas tooks the impire… those new westerners never knew SPrabhupad mano bhista… most senior sannyasis of SRila Narayana Maharaja were serving him intimatly for 30 years, for sure will not happend the same than iskcon society
pamho prabhus agtsp SIVA RATRI KI JAI it is very sad to hear about this prabhus the only way to avoid affliction in this case is to appeal for the mercy of SRI SRI GAURA NITAI because until there is even a tint of upadhi identification with all these maya rupas we will get the reaction by argue and fighting especially in this age actually we need to realize by constantly chanting that these disorders in the material world happens because of the bodily concept of life whoever is free from that do not worry about nothing but chanting and reading the mahabhagavata glories by revive our spiritual body full of bliss SRI KRSNA is the chief of everything say the best SAKTYA AVESHA AVATARA HDG ACBSP we can sort out all the sarvo upadhi of this world by SRI KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS that’s: EVERYTHING IS MOVING BY SRI KRSNA WILL this consciousness is krsna consciousness to work on this day after day and when we get completely convince that we are krsna property and not maya property then everything will be clear not more argue and fighting due to the bodily concept of life ys seva das haribol
Dear Seva Prabhuji
Pranams to you.
Yes Krishna has a plan but we must fight like Arjuna. We cannot chant and let everything go to hell around us. Thinking that we have to become pure Vaisnava then everything will work out. Someone else will do this fighting. We can retire to the forest and meditate. This is maybe too high in the cloud thinking.It is our duty to fight maya inside our heart and then outside in our Vaisnava sanga society. Everyone who has taken Sri Guru must fight this battle or why did we take Sri Guru in first place? If Temple is dirty then we must sweep. Not wait for Krishna to clean or someone else to clean. This is not arguing. Chanting and fighting must be done side by side. Not wait for everyone to have siddha deha then everything will be okay and Sankirtan mission will be saved. Please forgive. All glories to Param Guru Srila Prabhupada!
pamho buddhi yoga prabhu agtACBSP i’m agreed with you prabhu our first duty is to fight back with spiritual strength whoever is trying to stop us to destroy all our invisible enemies in the mind in this case we need ksatrya qualities and in the same time keeping going with our daily sadhana bhakti program as SRI KRSNA adviced ARJUNA to do in the battlefield of KURUKSETRA i know is not easy at all to do this in this polluted contaminate mind of kali yuga age but we still keep trying until our eternal relationship is set up with SRI SRI GURU GAURANGA the point is that is very easy in this age to get involve in argue and fighting because most of the citizens of the actuall society is sudra, kalo sudra sambhavah therefore we need to be careful in the way of cleaness because everything can turn to adharma in one second as already happens to the most senior devotees since the sankirtan revolution through the best paramahansa(HDG ACBSP) in the western country began by the mercy of the best merciful avatara(GAURANGA MAHAPRABHU)then as you know everything is within the time in this world i mean everything is asasvatam that’s why i says we need to mind more our spiritual business by avoid to be involve more in politic which can stop us to keep going with the daily sadhana because this age is full of distractions therefore the most important thing is to save ourselves of course we need to fight back and not waiting for the self siddha deha svarupa to take place it will come if we are sincere enough and steady by follow the footstep of our previous acharyas of our brahma gaudiya sampradaya thank you for your comment i can understand that’s a very serious problem at the moment in ipbys is strange that HH bvnm left without leave anyone in charge of the ipbys to tell you the truth i already knew this is was going to happen after his physical disappearance from this world anyway we just wait in this case because the time is SRI KRSNA the best friend and witness of all living entities therefore time will tell agtys prabhu dandavats daso smi seva das haribol
My obeisances. Yes, welcome to the hard realities of the “ritvk” systems, though we are Prabhupadanugas and that word is tossed out like calling us the “N” word. It is purposefully offensive, a psychological ploy of the globalists and psy-ops of the /CIA controlled media. We are now fighting tooth and nail as well as trying to preach nectar, despite the guru hatya party’s well-planned out globalist CIA takeover of our Srila Prabhupada’s temples, men, and resources. Those corporations which Mr. Mohan listed are Rockefeller/Rothoschildes NWO globalist Council of 300 Families -controlled organizations. Demons. Clearly someone is their agent, and others are being gullibly duped and controlled, just as they control so many sycophants in corporate ISKCON. HK
Come join us if you are looking for association. Hare Krishna.
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