Bizarre but true;
- Prabhupadanugas EU now prints offensive articles from Brahma samaj-types criticizing Gaudiya Vaisnavism and our acaryas! They are publishing radical Hindu attacks on the Hare Krishna movement. What is up with this ? Are the Hindus taking over Bangalore Yatra to the extent they publish criticizms of even Srila Prabhupada? Are they simply interested in publishing anything which undermines our sampradaya, and especially anything which makes Westerners look bad to appease crazed Hindus?
example- recent article by apasampradaya sannyasini criticizing Srila Bhaktivinode et al all through the succession.
Similarly, see b.i.f.'s or PADA, who also are part of the Prabhupadanugas team.
This poison is increasingly coming now from the newer Bangalore devotees, who appear contaminated indirectly via the Jayapatakasura arsenic NWO sampradaya, from my current best understanding, and includes the Movement-poisoners Saksi Gopal-asura, Gopesh, RadhaGovinda devi dasi, Mahasana , and Puranjan-asura and his trash-kings team of mad drug-addled caste smarta Hindu-serving character assassins.
By Mataji Parama Karuna Devi Front Article, Prabhupadanuga News
Thursday, December 15th, 2011 | The Chakra News
— "ISKCON, or the “Hare Krishna movement”, became a major cultural and religious phenomenon in the 1970s, effectively introducing the Krishna bhakti cult at global level and giving immense popularity to ethical vegetarianism and to the traditional Indian scriptures Bhagavad gita and Bhagavata purana... They just glued the faces of Chaitanya and Krishna over the old images of Jesus Christ and the God of the Bible, and adjusted a few details here and there. And this is no wonder, if we go deeper into the study of Iskcon’s true beginnings, in the period under the British rule."
...etc see their mag for the complete article, too offensive to post, in which they accuse our acaryas of speculation and adopting Christianity as the guideposts. This is the same NWO propaganda coming from Sakshi Gopal, Pada, and the other agents of the globalist agendas.
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Interesting angle, for a Hindu. Sorry not interested. b.i.f. including Saskhi Gopal, Pada, and others, similarly print such caste-Hindu anti-Gaudiya rhetoric. This Brahma-samaj, Arya Samaj-style pseudo-intellectualization is on topics far far beyond their ken. Suddenly we are accepting criticisms from outsiders? This is mere speculation and imaginary explanation from the Madame Blavatsky department. Why are you even printing this shameless and oft-offensive trashy egotistic speculation ? More female sannyasis; we already have one very good pukka pure one, B. Radha Govinda Swami, and do not need to import outsiders and imposters from Deviation City. These are the same smartas who bar entry to Lord Jaggannatha's temple for all "non-caste Hindus".
"Why are you publishing such speculative trash talk by Arya- Brahma samaj types? This is imaginary and offensive, and is not worthy to be published, as it offends the entire discipic succession. It is Madame Blavatsky, reborn."
Why is such speculative critical trash so popular with that website? What sort of deviant Vaisnava would allow this Madame Blavatsky poison to be put before the assembly of Vaisnavas? Their e-magazine has lost all discrimintaion ability due to offenses.
Their motivation seems to be to destroy the Hare Krsna movment through insidiously publishing lies which gradually are accepted as truths.
I have warned them individually and collectively that madness will be the result of their purposive offenses against our most recent acarya Srila Gour Govinda Swami, best of the disciples of Srila Prabhupada, and nitya-siddha Maha Bhagavata. Refusing my warnings and those of other devotees, such as Radha Govinda Swami and Bhagavata Maharajahs, the rascals Sakshi Gopal, Mahasana, Gopesh, Radha Govinda dasi, Puranjana, and other co-conspirators insist on severe public aparadha, and this is the result. It is one thing to stop deviants and criminals, it is quite another to make false accusations against pure devotees. As a result, they have gone mad, lost all discrimination ability, and now thier minds seek perhaps unconsciously to destroy the Gaudiya Vaisnavas, thus furthering their desired degradation to hell.
When reading “bogus guru Paramadvaiti Swami, bogus guru Sivarama Swami”, on your beautiful website, I figured, wow, these must be real genuine followers of Srila Prabhupada. First class preachers, first class madhyama-adhikari and first class saviors of the fallen conditioned souls.
Let me go there and visit their temples to associate with those who all day do nothing but spreading Prabhupada’s pure message. Let me see their temples packed with genuine Prabhupada devotees, let me see their farms with Krishna cows, Govinda restaurants, Deities, bookdistribution etc., etc., – everything what is dear to Prabhupada. Let me go there immediately.
Ok there is Madhu Pandit, Bangalore, India. But what about in the West? Wasn’t Prabhupada concern to preach in the Western hemisphere?
So my question is, where is staffmember’s temple? Where is Puranjana’s temple? Couldn’t find any address so far. Thanks for any help!
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pamho prabhus agtACBSP NAMACHARYA SRILA HARIDAS THAKUR KI JAI
Remembering Prabhupada’s instructions, we know spiritual life is the most difficult thing to do in this age.
It is true that bhakti can burn all the karma of a sincere devotee but material allurements of kali-yuga rubbish try to capture neophyte practitioners of bhakti-yoga.
SRILA BHAKTISIDDHANTA was happy even when a disciple was distributing only one small book what to say of H.H Paramadvaiti Swami who distributed so many books.
Then Bhagavad-gita says that every action is covered by fault but one should never give up one’s prescribed duties which can make us free even if there are mistakes.
Everyone got his journey, i can’t say that the journey of this swami is going wrong because whoever does good never becomes overcome by bad.
Of course, Prabhupada clearly states, “Try to understand. Don’t go very speedily. A guru can become guru when he’s ordered by his guru. That’s all. Otherwise nobody can become guru.”
We are just puppets in the hands of SRI KRSNA’s energy, nehabikrama naso sti, nothing is lost in Krsna consciousness, everyone is progressing to the last destination including the demigods.
However, one should be intelligent enough to know what is the service of those swamis who are actually free from material attachment, who are at least madhyama adhikari.
Not only is he convinced himself, but he can convince all kind of people on the strength of Vedic evidence.
And this seems presently missing, where are new intelligent devotees?
MAHA VISHNU ANANDA CATURDASI VRATA KI JAI,
brhat mrdanga ki jai
ys seva das
haribol
Haribol,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga,
Prabhu, with all due respect; you write these things, you are trying to find fault with elevated vaisnavas, people who have devoted their lives to bhakti yoga and who have been practicing bhakti yoga since a very long time.
Paramadvaiti Maharaja was initiated by two maha bhagavatas; Srila Prabhupada and Srila Sridhara Maharaja. He had Bhakti Pramode Puri maharaja as a siksa guru. These three great sat gurus have all found him worthy of their association and initation. Don’t you think they would have seen through him if he was bogus?
By criticizing Paramadvaiti maharaja in this way, to me it feels as if you are insulting the judgements of three of the greatest gurus who ever walked the face of this earth. Do you think it is a smart thing to do to write thise things?? Are you sure you are not committing vaisnava aparadha by doing this? There is already so much hate in this world. We don’t need more hate, we need more love.
If Paramadvaiti maharaja shows some normal human affection for devotees, female or not, i don’t see anything wrong with that. He knows he made a vow of celibacy and i don’t see him breaking it.
The fact that you have a problem with this, means that you read something sexual into his behaviour. This happens in YOUR mind, not his! So why not let the responsability for upholding his vows of celibacy be HIS responsability? It isn’t your responsability, nor can his behaviour reflect on you either, since it’s not your behaviour…
The way you write here comes across to me as tabloid journalism, not as the writing of someone who loves Krishna and puts Krishna in the center. I find this a great pity.
During a lecture here in Amsterdam, Radhanath maharaja spoke about power sources. He made an example of different wall sockets. The electric power coming out of different wall sockets is exactly the same. That means: the source of the power is the same.
So, if the source of the power is Krishna, it doesn’t matter whether you hear from this guru or that guru. If the guru puts Krishna in the center, then the power is the same. So, he said, if we would all put Krishna in the center, all quarrels about institution (Iskcon or other gaudiya mathas), about who your guru is and all other things we can argue about, will stop. Then everything will revolve around love for Krishna, and that’s the important thing !!!
I hope you can find it in your heart to focus more on Radha, Krishna, Lord Chaitanya and their love, and less on controversy.
I hope this will help you in your bhakti.
Hare Krishna
Madhukar das
Yes, so true, sannyasis should not be embracing women. Still, all i see is the sincere love of a Vaisnava for his disciples. I can fully identify with the parental protective mood he shows, it does not look at all like lust to me. And the devotees seem to be moved by the paternal protective love of their well-wisher and benefactor. They appear to be relishing the love shown by their Guru; I see no lusty motivations. All this is very public, there is no hiding or secet meetings. Has there been illicit sex or affairs etc? No?
Just goes to show how materialists are always trying to find flaws, and so the devotees are obliged to act in such restrictive and careful ways lest outsiders misunderstand everything. They take love to be lust, because their own hearts cannot conceive of simple pure love. They think everyone is lusty like they are.
Enough ! with the dichotomous attempts to polarize the devotees and force them into paradigms of thought controlled by politicized and envious persons! As others in this thread said, please go do something more useful.
pamho agtACBSP
well, the truth is with the real Maha-bhagavata devotees who know THEIR svarupa-murti and THEY act accordingly by being directly situated under the complete control of the Supersoul. Therefore the Maha-bhagavata is not different in quality with the Paramatma.
We recognize His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada who gives the example of a first class Maha-bhagavata devotee and first class renounced sannyasi who never would embrace his female disciples in this way as shown on these pics submitted by thoughtful South American Vaishnavas.
Most of the godbrothers of SRILA PRABHUPADA didn’t satisfy the desire of SRI CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU and SRILA BHAKTISIDDHANTA MAHARAJA – some of them became envious of SRILA PRABHUPADA by criticizing HIM very badily because they were not able to accomplish global preaching – as SRILA PRABHUPADA mentions in HIS classes.
Therefore they tried to find some fault. In the same way H.H. Paramadvaiti Swami is a sincere devotee may be one day all the citizens of our society become all like H.H. Paramadvaiti Swami who is doing a lot of service by having started his own movement.
Therefore it is better to not waste too much time in criticizing the journey of other devotees who have left Prabhupada’s movement and are trying hard to please SRI SRI GURU GAURANGA by spreading the Holy Name.
On the other side, article above was first published on the Sampradaya Sun about 9 months ago. Why nobody complained immediately? Why nobody wrote to Rocana pr.?
ys seva das
haribol
Chapter 9 Text 30
Even if one commits the most abominable action, if he is engaged in devotional service he is to be considered saintly because he is properly situated in his determination.
Chapter 9 Text 31
He quickly becomes rihteous and attains lasting peace. O son of Kunti, declare it bodly that My devotee never perishes.
Lets concentrate on creating a loving vibration with the Holy Name at its centre, rather than worrying about what others are doing or not doing! Lets concentrate on our own journey back to Godhead.
God bless.