What Future Do We Have In GBC-controlled ISKCON? | Mohini Devi Dasi

Mohini Devi Dasi – Novosibirsk (PRABHUPADAVISION): Srila Prabhupada has established ISKCON, and set up a perfect system of living in this world paying more attention to Krishna consciousness. The system was running in certain type of communities where people could look after each other and cows, and  maintain their Krishna  consciousness. He called these communities, self sufficient communities. They are very important part of ISKCON, which is hardly maintained now.

This world in which we live now, which is influenced more and more by Kali, it is not meant for people practicing Krishna  consciousness. Kali is present in intoxications, gambling, prostitution and meat eating, and he definitely made sure that, that most of people are engaged in such activities. Sneakily he makes his way in the hearts of those who, for whatever reason, are engaged in such activities, he influences people and get them to do what he wants.

He gives power to those who are worshiping him, people use it and become leaders of organizations, communities, societies, countries. The so called leaders grab senior positions without thinking about people, whom they should be responsible for. That’s what has happened in ISKCON.

Just think about it where in this world can we find place for devotees? We don’t have future here, because we allow such people in Srila Prabhupada’s movement, to come and ruin everything they can.

Srila Prabhupada knew that, that’s why he set up certain system for us to live. He wanted self sufficient communities to be developed, so devotees could produce foodstuffs like vegetables, grains and milk as well as cloth, and with that save more time for spiritual culture. Simple living, high thinking.

This day and age most of people’s lives are only meant for leaders to make money, firs a child goes to govt. school, to get “education”, to be trained up for being controlled, and to have a better memory, also to get a certificate with which help they can go to university and finally get a job, to work eight hours a day, get very little money and pay half of it for rent, electricity and other taxes.

If we would live in such communities we wouldn’t have to worry about spending our lives working to live and living to work, we also wouldn’t have to worry about our sadhu sanga.

Srila Prabhupada cares about this movement, us and our future, while leaders of ISKCON now are greedy, sneaky liars, who grab every opportunity to satisfy their senses. They are so selfish and ignorant that they can’t think of anyone but themselves.

The person who is running after sense gratification, can be terrible, but person who dose same but uses others in enjoying his senses is far worst. And just think of the one with all that, but who is also spoiling name of his own spiritual master and ISKCON, and also offends him. How terrible is that?

They don’t only cheat their naive disciples, and make them their servants, they even don’t live roles for normal devotees, and make us, to be bad guys.

35 years has been since Srila Prabhupada has passed away, and look at this movement. Basically nothing is developed, even got worst.  ISKCONs name is so bad now, thanks to them.

I’ve been to, Moscow, Volgograd, Aleysk, Novosibirsk and Vrindavan, nowhere there I found self sufficient communities.

Non of my friends have seen Srila Prabhupada’s video, they only listen their gurumaharaj’s tapes, books are changed, so how can they understand what Srila Prabhupada wants when they haven’t  seen and listened to him even once. Yes that’s the way it is. But what about me?  I don’t want to go to karmi  school, my parents don’t want me to go too. But these leaders leave no future for me.

I was born in a family of devotees, and always dreamt of growing up and preaching, like  Lord Chaitanya wanted us to do, but it came out that I have nowhere to grow up as a devotee. And it seems like I really will have to go to one of these karmi schools.  And all that because in ISKCON, in International Society for Krishna  Consciousness leaders don’t give a fig about future of people they suppose to be responsible for.

All devotees, and especially those of us who have birth right to be followers of Srila Prabhupada, should fight  these kali chelas. Only this can help us, and our movement, finally to be able to follow Srila Prabhupada’s instructions. We should always remember that Srila Prabhupada is our well wisher, and he always wants what is best for us.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Mohini d.d.

 

Какое будущее нас ждет в ИСККОНе?

Шрила Прабхупада основал  ИСККОН, также создал идеальную систему, как  жить  в этом мире уделяя больше времени сознанию Кришны. Система может быть применима в определенном типе общества, где люди могут присматривать друг за другом и за коровами, и поддерживать сознание Кришны. Он называл эти обшества, самодостаточными общинами. Это очень важная часть ИСККОН, которая с трудом поддерживается в настоящее время.
Это мир, в котором мы живем сейчас, на который Кали влияет все больше и больше,  не предназначен для людей, практикующих сознание Кришны. Кали присутствует в , интоксикациях, азартных играх, проституции и мясо едении, и он уж точно проследил, чтоб большинство людей, занимались такой деятельностью. Тихо, он проникает, в сердца тех, кто по каким-либо причинам, занимается такой деятельностью, он влияет на людей и заставляет их делать то, что хочет он.

Он дает силу тем, кто поклоняется ему, люди используют ее и становятся лидерами организаций, общин, сообществ, странн. Так называемые лидеры хватают высокие должности , не думая о людях, за которых они должны нести ответственность. Это то, что произошло в ИСККОН.
Просто подумайте об этом, где в этом мире мы можем найти место для преданных? У нас нет будущего здесь, потому что мы позволяем таким людям проникать в движение Шрилы Прабхупады, и  разрушать все что можно.

Шрила Прабхупада знал об этом, именно поэтому он создал определенную систему по которой мы могли бы  жить. Он хотел чтобы самодостаточные общины,  развивались, где преданные могли бы производить продукты питания, как овощи, зерно и молоко, а также ткани, и вместе с тем сохранять больше времени для духовной культуры. Простая жизни, высокое мышление.

Сегодня же большенство жизней людей, предназначены для того чтобы на них  зарабатывали лидеры, сначала ребенок идет в государственную школу, чтобы получить “образование”, научиться быть под контролем,  улучшить память, и получить сертификат, с помощью которого он может поступить в университет и, наконец, устроиться на работу, работать восемь часов в день, получать очень маленькую зарплату и платить половину на аренду, электричество и другие налоги.
Если бы мы жили в таких обществах,  нам бы не прешлось беспокоиться о трате  нашей жизни на то чтобы  работать, чтобы жить и жить чтобы работать, нам также не пришлось бы беспокоиться о нашей садху санге.

Шрила Прабхупада позаботился об этом движении, и нашем будущем, в то время как, теперешние лидеры ИСККОН праворные, лжецы, которые хватают любую возможность  удовлетворить свои чувства. Они настолько эгоистичны и невежественны, что не могут думать ни о ком, кроме себя.
Человек, который бежит за удовлетворениям чуств, может быть ужасным, но человек, который делает  то же, и использует других, чтоб удовлетворять свои чувства, намного хуже. А теперь подумайте о том, кто делает все это, но еще и портит имя своего собственного духовного учителя, и оскорбляет его. Насколько ужасно это?

Они не только обманывают своих наивных учеников, и делают их своими слугами, но даже не оставляют роли для нормальных преданных.

35 лет прошло с того дня как Шрила Прабхупада ушел, и просто посмотрите на это движение. В основном ничего не изменилось в лучшею сторану, даже ухудшилось. Просто невыосимо слушать все то что люди сечас говорят об ИСККОНе, можете сказать за, это вашим лидерам спасибо.

Я побывала в Москве, Волгограде, Алейске, Новосибирске и Вриндаване, и ни в одном из этих мест я  не нашла самодостаточных общин.
И никто из моих друзей не видел видео Шрилы Прабхупады, они только слушают лекции своих гурумахараджей, книги поменяли, так как же они могут понять, что хочет Шрила Прабхупада, когда они ни разу не видели и не слушали его.

 

Все конечно так, но, как же я? Я не хочу идти в кармическую школу, мой родители тоже не хотитят. Но эти лидеры не оставили мне будущего в ИСККОН.
Я родился в семье преданных, и всегда мечтала вырости и начать проповедовать, чего хотел и Господь Чайтанья, но выяснилось, что мне некуда выростать, как преданной. И похоже мне и правдо придется идти в одну из этих  кармических школ. И все это потому, что в ИСККОНе, Международном Обществе Сознания Кришны, лидеры не выделят ни минуту будущему людей, за которых они должны были нести ответственность.

Все преданные, и особенно те из нас, кто по праву рождения могут быть последователями Шрилы Прабхупады, должны сражаться с Кали и его шпионами. Только это, может помочь нам, нашему движению, и наконец, дать нам возможность следовать наставлениям Шрилы Прабхупады, а он хочет, для нас только самого лучшего.

Вся слава Шриле Прабхупаде!

Мохини

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  1. aspiringdevotee on 30. December 2011 at 7:09 am said:

    Mohini devi dasi, you have written a nice and intelligent article. If you so desire to create a devotee community, Lord Krishna will give you the opportunity. Otherwise, Srila Prabhupada said we don’t have to change anything, just add Hare Krishna chanting to our lives and everything will follow. We are so fortunate to have Srila Prabhupada in his vani form via his books, tapes, videos and letters. Please don’t be discouraged and have faith that Srila Prabhupada is still guiding his sincere followers towards the highest goal of life to return back to Godhead.

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    Mataji is right; Why are we, like snivelling cowards, not throwing the poisoners and all their minions out on their laurels into the streets? Did they not abuse and throw Prabhupada’s disciples into the streets? Why is a child abuser sitting in Mayapura, scoffing at the men he molested? Why are any of the poisoners allowed onto Iskcon properties period, including the despot crazy man Jayapataka Mossad-NWO promoting agent , the disgusting sycophant creepy Caru, whom I wouldnt trust alone babaysitting my kids, Coka-cola Gopal Krishna, friend of murderers and criminal plotter to frame innocent devotees, who I wouldn’t buy a used car from, Coke sniffing Hrdayananada, and his women, and gay or whorehouse frequenting Diksa Gurus. Why are the devotees not giving them what they deserve and throwing them on the streets?

    They put on airs and act like God but are actually much much lower than dog. A dog does not usually trry to kill its master. A dog acts like it owns the whole pack, and bares its teeth to all who oppose the dictatorship. We must stop being submissive slaves to a tortured and sick society of poisoner dogs and imposters and psychopaths and fools. Are we really that plain stupid and cowardly? We can sit back and be abused, or we can be responsible adults and make the hard decisions necessary to free the Movement from the usurpers. Occupy the temples. Or get out from them, they are tainted with poison, and build new communities from ground up if necessary. The Demonic Powers That Be are doing everything necesary to ensure that we are kept weak and under the thumb of their agents. So long as we languish under thier disgusting sickness, there will no more be love and peace, it will be just money, prestige, and politics as usual.

    Where are the ksatriyas to drive out and finish the bogus poisoner usurpers? Srila Prabhupada never was a coward, he fought to the death. So you others who suggest just chanting Hare Krishna and everything will be alright; thats ridiculous. Did Arjuna chant Hare Krsna and everything will be alright? That is mayavada; we need do nothing, just chant. Srila Prabhupada said sankirtana first, japa second, temple worship a distant third in priorities. Did he sit back and chant?? Did he recommend we sit back and chant and the whole world will just save itself based upon our great mystic potencies? Those who suggest we do nothing, just chant, are the source of the problem in the first place. They are content to be abused, and so long as the abuse does not touch them too hard personally, they will tolerate rape, neglect, poverety, sickness, hunger, lack of opportunities, ignorance, weakness, cowardice, croneyism, criminality, sex predation, drug abuse, poison, theft, etc.

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    One month ago, a devotee from Peru told me personally that Devarshi Prabhu was very sick, although he didn´t mention what kind of disease was afflicting him. He added that Devarshi had made an open appeal to his peers in Spain to take him back to that country in order to receive good quality medical treatment.

    Then the e-mail referred to in the first paragraph above entered my inbox.

    What a shame!! At his 55-56 years of age, Devarshi died of a totally curable disease: tuberculosis. Just the poor and dejected die of tuberculosis!

    Devarshi Prabhu made a public stress call, letting his countrymen know he was in trouble. That he urgently needed help. I even got it here in Guatemala. I don´t want to jump to conclusions, but it seems (please correct me if I´m wrong) that NOBODY stretched him a helping hand, not in Mayapur neither in Spain. Of course, I spare Isvara Prabhu, Hrimata mataji and the other devotees who kindly assisted him in his last hour.

    If such a jewel-like, qualified devotee passed away unnecessarily, in a wasteful manner, while his close relations couldn´t care less for him, it's a shame!

    Meanwhile, the big gurus of ISKCON, as well as its high-ranking officials, spend millions of dollars in keeping their bodies fit and healthy. But for the rank and file devotees, the ones who really keep the mission afloat, they are neglected even to point of death! What a shame! These anonymous but fine, "expert" [Prabhupada] devotees, are the real mahatmas of the movement founded by Srila Prabhupada. What a shame so-called friends and authorities did nothing to take him to Spain.

    Upon hearing from the Peruvian devotee that Devarshi was ill, a devotee from Central America sent Devarshi an e-mail inviting him to travel to the Costa Rica farm, all expenses covered. But it seems he never read it… He was too ill… or it was too late.

    Also, 5 days after his demise, nobody, not in Mayapur and neither in Spain, has informed the devotees about this most unfortunate news to the worldwide Vaisnava community -- to the many thousands Devarshi helped so graciously, selflessly, and unconditionally!!

    What a shame! Srila Prabhupada must be very angry at this callousness and heartlessness.


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    All glories to His Grace Sriman Devarshi dasa Brahmacari!
    All glories to the true, anonymous servants of Srila Prabhupada!
    All glories to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!
    All glories to the audarya-avatara, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu!

  • From Rasa Sundari devi dasi:

    "I just got a phone call from Mayapur that my dear Godbrother Devarsi prabhu ("the astrologer") has left this mortal world at 2:30 pm local Mayapur time. [Monday, 19] There is not much information at this point just that he had tubercolosis and was in Calcutta returning to Mayapur. As he was very sick they brought him to the hospital in Krsnanagar where he left. He was accompanied by Isvara prabhu a Spanish devotee. Jananinvasa prabhu said that he was a gentleman and this world is not meant for gentlemen.

    Please pray for his safe return to the lotus feet of Sri Sri Radha Krsna."

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    Devarshi Prabhu joined Srila Prabhupada´s mission back in 1977. His father was a very rich man who got very disturbed by his son's decision to become a Hare Krishna. In order to forcefully pull his son out of the movement, he hired some professional brain-washers who kidnapped him and took him (drugged) to a country home in Switzerland. However Devarshi managed to escape after undergoing gruelling sessions of gross materialistc "psychotherapy," similar to the ones Prahlad Maharaja received from Sanda and Amarka. Then, to avoid further persecution, Devarshi went to India.

    Very soon it became evident to all the dhamvasis living at Mayapur that Devarshi Prabhu was a humble, saintly devotee who had the natural propensities of a sterling brahmana-vaisnava: true devotion for constantly chanting the Holy Names, eagerness for studying the sastras, a liking for both performing devotional austerities (vratas) and travelling to do parikramas to holy tirthas. However, the most outstanding quality of Devarshi was his unconditional and selfless disposition to serve all kind of Vaisnavas and Vaisnavis.

    Devarshi became a remarkable astrologer. In fact, his fame as a jyotish spread all over the world. He would study the devotees' charts and make precise, amazing predictions, always highlighting the beneficial and spiritual points of the horoscopes. And sure enough, Devarshi would never charge any money—he would gladly receive whatever meagre or plentiful donations devotees gave him. Immediately afterwards, Devarshi would donate all that money to devotees in need, sadhus, temple programs, etc. As a perfect long-life brahmacari, he would just keep for himself only a few rupees to pay his bare necessities, or as Srila Prabhupada said, to keep together body and soul.

    I don´t know how many, literally, thousands of devotees Devarshi helped in the last 30 years.

    I never meet Devarshi Prabhu personally, yet over a period that spanned almost twenty years, he kindly studied mine and my daughter's charts. Not once, but thrice. From Guatemala I would send my donations with another Spaniard devotee who comes regularly to Central America to sell luxury items from India.

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  • Dear N; thanks for your comment! I almost get sick sometimes posting these recent news articles of great importance. It takes a lot of nerve to post these, as one is then subject to so much criticism and accusations. I don't want to have to face this craziness with no allies, but do so anyway  when required.  A comment in support of speaking truth, however unpleasant that truth may be, means a lot. I post these in the same mood of a man walking by and seeing a  senior's residence house on fire and most of the residents asleep...  its an emergency.

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