Thank you for the well-intended share. I have conversed with Doktorski, and initially helped rep his book, commented etc. Unfortunately, he has taken a definite stance of associating with abominable liars such as Hanuman Swami now full time karmi sex therapist, and SP abuser, and other noniskcon yogis etc who outright blaspheme Srila Prabhupada, so I stopped supporting his works in any way. They call him racist and sexist and unable to control his followers,leading to child abuse etc
When I go to Dandavats or iskcon sites I see the usual sycophants and appeasers of those who murdered Srila Prabhupada. It is so desperately cultish, so standardized and brainwashed, as the same old boys demand money and worship and they're mostly con men and Levite-Khazarian "jews", ie Luciferians and Kaballists. Anyway, not bothering much to look into the details anymore. However, it was nice of you to send me what might have ben a fascinating historical link.
I do hope the younger gen has half a brain and can rise above the alien take-over and re-steering away from SP and his loyal disciples. Supporting them in any way is bad karma, so one is wise to promote only Srila Prabhupada and not the organization that murdered so many of Srila Prabhupada's disciples and missions. I myself have had my whole life ripped away by these self-serving cult ziojews, who occupy our buildings and take our sankirtan money to stuff their fat kanistha or less nwo-demon faces, like the monster Jayapuketalka. The Paundraka fake iskcon appears superficially to be Vaisnava, but at the root is the murder of the Guru and usurpation of the timeline into one in which the globalist fag boys take control and ruin the lives of most of Srila Prabhupada's disciples while using his rep and money and books etc to shore up their stolen goods and globalist ziojew franchise operation. These pieces of Kuru-party shit have taken the devotional lives of most of SP's disciples, they produce films and books glorifying themselves, they live in hierarchies of bossmans and slave goys.
My hope is that over time all theses cia mf'ers will be dead and hopefully an intelligent class of devotees with see through the cia assault and take the Movement back from the cons.
I am S Prabhupada's loyal soldier, have given this whole life to his mission. I tell you these things because they are true.
Meanwhile, do your cultural expansion service, keep in mind you are seeding Krsna culture, not serving the deviant cult. You develop power and raise Laxmi by your works, do not waste them on the cultists, but on promoting Srila Prabhupada and his loyal disciples. Even it appears to be a losing position, Krsna recognizes sincere pure service in face of obstacles to His plans.
Right now, so much has been done worldwide, we have done our duties and plus plus, so chant nicely, don't worry, we have had great success, the purification will gradually take place, its not quite up to us, our time now is for positive meditation, rest, some preaching as we can manage easily.
What works for one in their mood of service may or may not be understood or work for another in another mood of service. It is up to Krsna, we just do our duties as best we can, that's all. This book may help to raise awareness of the devotees, but it also diminishes Srila Prabhupada, blaming him for abuses and making the devotees look like crazy cult killers, which they are, but told in a way that makes us all look bad. We are not all bad, quite the opposite.
AGTSP.
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Srila Prabhupada Speaks Out - "You cannot take protection of another rascal
who interprets Bhagavad-gītā in a different way. You have to take shelter directly. "
The authorized edition of Bhagavad-gita will help to stop the terrible cheating of 'gurus' and 'yogis' who are false and unauthorized
"The reviews have very much encouraged me. Especially those of Prof. Bhatt and Prof. Vajpeye. I have personally written a letter of thanks to Dr. Bhatt, that he has so much encouraged me. Dr. Vajpeye's review we are going to print and widely distribute, especially in Bombay and Madras, where there is so much propaganda from these bogus gurus and yogis. He has got practical experience of how they are cheating the innocent people in foreign countries and he has written; "The authorized edition of Bhagavad-gita will help to stop the terrible cheating of 'gurus' and 'yogis' who are false and unauthorized. [Letter to: Svarupa, Ranadhira, Mayapur-3 February, 1976 Los Angeles]"
Srila Prabhupada: “…You cannot take protection of another rascal who interprets Bhagavad-gītā in a different way. You have to take shelter directly. Of course, Bhagavad-gītā instruction is there. Everyone can take shelter of Kṛṣṇa directly. Where is the difficulty? Just like here is is said, mayy āsakta. You have to develop your attachment for Kṛṣṇa. You can do that. How these Americans and European boys, they have developed their attraction for Kṛṣṇa? There is a process. If you adopt…” (Lecture BG 7.1, Hyderabad, April 27,1974)
So therefore, Bhagavān uvāca. We have to hear from Bhagavān, not from rascals. Then your knowledge is perfect. If you hear from rascals, then you become rascal. Don't hear from any rascal. Hear from Bhagavān and take it and accept it. Then, gradually, your existence will be purified. Just like if somebody comes... Recently it so happened. There is a big Māyāvādī sannyāsī in India. His name is Akshananda Swami. Perhaps you know. Did you know? No. Anyone? Anyway, he is a Māyāvādī sannyāsī. So Acyutānanda Swami went to sell some books in their camp. So, his disciple requested him, "Why don't you ask some question from Swamiji?" So, he said, "What I have to ask from him?" He was so convinced that "What this rascal can say to me? I know. I have heard from Kṛṣṇa." This is knowledge. So, if you stick to Kṛṣṇa and hear from Him, you haven't got to hear from any rascal, any rascal. Then you will waste time. Don't hear from any rascal.
Therefore, we are presenting Bhagavad-gītā As It Is, as it is, without any change. Kṛṣṇa says, man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru: [Bg. 18.65] "Just become My devotee. Always think of Me." We are teaching the same thing. We have no difficulty. What we are requesting you? "You think of Kṛṣṇa. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa." That's all. Where is the difficulty? We don't say, "You think of that, this of that, to this demigod, that demigod." No. We don't say. What is the use of other demigod? We show all respect to everyone, even to the ant, but that does mean that any demigod, any damn, any rascal, should be worshiped as God? No. That is not possible. We can show respect even to the insignificant ant. Tṛṇād api sunīcena taror api sahiṣṇunā. That may be another thing. But we cannot accept anyone as God. That is not possible. That is knowledge. That is knowledge. Be convinced firmly, kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam: [SB 1.3.28] "Bhagavān means Kṛṣṇa, nobody else." Kāmais tais tair hṛta-jñānāḥ yajante anya-devatāḥ [Bg. 7.20]. Anya-devatāḥ, accept as God, they are accepted by the rascals, hṛta-jñānāḥ, those who have lost their knowledge. They have lost their... Hṛta-jñānāḥ and naṣṭa-buddhayaḥ, those who have lost their knowledge. So, don't be lost of your knowledge. Stick to Kṛṣṇa and accept His words as it is. Then you will be one day fearless, abhayaṁ sattva-saṁśuddhiḥ. Your existence will be purified, spiritual existence. Purified existence means spiritual existence. We are spiritual; we are not this material just like I am not this shirt, you are not this shirt. You are within the shirt. Similarly, asmin dehe. Dehino 'smin yathā dehe. Dehino 'smin yathā dehe [Bg. 2.13]. We are within the shirt. This is the first knowledge, that "I am not this body." Why I shall be puffed up with this body? This is superfluous. I am spirit soul. I am part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa; therefore, my only business is with Kṛṣṇa. (Lecture BG 16.1-3, Hawaii, January 27,1975)
Srila Prabhupāda: And that will give you guidance. Read Bhagavad-gītā as it is, word for word. But don't misinterpret and spoil. The rascals misinterpret and spoil the whole Bhagavad-gītā. That is the difficulty(?). You cannot misinterpret Bhagavad-gītā. Then it will be spoiled. If you get Bhagavad-gītā as it is, you are benefited. And if you misinterpret, then you spoil. So generally, they misinterpret. Everyone speaks on Bhagavad-gītā, but he misinterprets.
Guest (1): You've made it very clear,
Srila Prabhupāda. I want to thank you for that. I like your purports as much as Kṛṣṇa's actual words, because now I can understand it.
Srila Prabhupāda: Therefore, we are presenting Bhagavad-gītā As It Is. Otherwise, for the last so many years—I am speaking in Western countries—so many swamis, so many yogis come, they speak on Bhagavad-gītā but misinterpret. So not a single devotee was there. And now Bhagavad-gītā is presented as it is, and so many devotees are coming. (Evening Darsana -- July 11, 1976, New York)
Sat., Jan. 23 at 9:15 a.m.
Srila Prabhupada Speaks Out - "IF ONE GETS A BONAFIDE SPIRITUAL MASTER AND ACTS
ACCORDING TO HIS DIRECTION, THEN HIS PERFECTION OF LIFE IN KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS IS GUARANTEED. "
चेतसा सर्वकर्माणि मयि संन्यस्य मत्परः ।
बुद्धियोगमुपाश्रित्य मच्चित्तः सततं भव ॥५७॥
cetasā sarva-karmāṇi
mayi sannyasya mat-paraḥ
buddhi-yogam upāśritya
mac-cittaḥ satataṁ bhava
cetasā—by intelligence; sarva-karmāni—all kinds of activities; mayi—unto Me; sannyasya—giving up; mat-paraḥ—My protection; buddhi-yogam—devotional activities; upāśritya—taking shelter of; mat-cittaḥ—consciousness; satatam—twenty-four hours a day; bhava—just become.
Translation
In all activities just depend upon Me and work always under My protection. In such devotional service, be fully conscious of Me.
Purport
When one acts in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, he does not act as the master of the world. Just like a servant, one should act fully under the direction of the Supreme Lord. A servant has no individual independence. He acts only on the order of the master. A servant acting on behalf of the supreme master has no affection for profit and loss. He simply discharges his duty faithfully in terms of the order of the Lord. Now, one may argue that Arjuna was acting under the personal direction of Kṛṣṇa, but, when Kṛṣṇa is not present, how should one act? If one acts according to the direction of Kṛṣṇa in this book, as well as under the guidance of the representative of Kṛṣṇa, then the result will be the same. The Sanskrit word mat-paraḥ is very important in this verse. It indicates that one has no goal in life save and except acting in Kṛṣṇa consciousness just to satisfy Kṛṣṇa. And, while working in that way, one should think of Kṛṣṇa only: “I have been appointed to discharge this particular duty by Kṛṣṇa.” While acting in such a way, one naturally has to think of Kṛṣṇa. This is perfect Kṛṣṇa consciousness. One should, however, note that, after doing something whimsically, he should not offer the result to the Supreme Lord. That sort of duty is not in the devotional service of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. One should act according to the order of Krṣna. This is a very important point. That order of Kṛṣṇa comes through disciplic succession from the bona fide spiritual master. Therefore the spiritual master’s order should be taken as the prime duty of life. If one gets a bona fide spiritual master and acts according to his direction, then his perfection of life in Kṛṣṇa consciousness is guaranteed.Bhagavad gita as it is (1972 edition) 18.57:
Doktorski is a disgruntled employee.
We all know Henri Jolicouer.. another disgruntled employee. He blames Prabhupad and is somewhat intolerable offender.
He was Mukunda Swami. At least he wasn't a fake devotee.
This is his speel. Warning he has his issues.
Alert--- it's easy to make ad hominem accusations to people. first we must see ourselves.
I was in NV for a while. I knew there was crap going on, but I just kept on as long as I could. At one point I put my box of junk out the window and split.
What is he , on drugs?
Yes he is bad news. Maybe he is lying I don't know.I warned you that it was borderline. He mixes truth with his opinions and it is dangerous. He is a sneaky snake. If you want I will remove the videos and just post the other part of the comment.
Doktorski is not too kosher either. But it has been said. These people are the ones that derailed the movement. Imagine how much the last 5000 years of history has been twisted. One will need psychic powers to unravel the real truth.
Tamohara dasa, acbssp rit.(spi) said:
Prabhupada was merciful even to his enemies. Unlike modern day Kam
sas.
I have listened to one or two of his videos on YouTube and exchanged some comments there etc years in past. I am glad you posted examples, very good. Now re derail, yes, itsacon is off track having been redirected in favor of black magicke agendas. SP was indeed merciful fully to all always, yet he also acted according to necessity and the intent of the persons, once in a while it was a demon who needed containment etc. We can infer much of the real history by looking at the overall flow of words, ideas, symbols, though the devil is in the details, no doubt n that matter. Prophesied events such as the appearance of Sri Krsna Caitanya and of this Movement , fortunately, prove their reality, versus imagination and guesswork. Our foregurus sometimes said that their descriptions of the Pastimes were but partial and incomplete. So, I focus on the little I have heard and thus know to meditate on. Better for me to know a few things nicely than a lot half-assed. ps Our enemies have not been overly merciful to us, so should it arise, tit for tat I say ( no pun on om tat sat intended? ) HKR !!
pls note; cleaned up the language in the initial post here, taken verbatim from an email exchange. I am equally disturbed by the Christians as the muslims and jews; they all three suck, at best supportive or correlative approximations of spiritual life. The delusions of the perps are not pure, they think in terms of bodily designations, and so sometimes we have to use such language to expose, or rather to heck with it all already, lol. maybe we should drop the discussion section and just chant Hare Krsna, my brain is getting beady-eyed and picky.
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