Recently Rocana dasa wrote an article complaining of being banned from Iskcon. This is no surprise, my friend, as you have banned and and purposefully misrepresented many devotees, including myself, site editor here.
Prabhupadanuga EU NEWS /Bangalore group continues to broadcast propaganda lies and accept massive funding from the New World Order, including Bill Gates and Fidelity Investments (FI is the world-leading globalist GMO advocate, led by those seeking to depopulate the earth, especially brown and black skinned peoples, by 90% or more using poisons and poverty) and is thus supported and directed by them. Most of their dupes have no idea they are being swindled.
The drug addict Pada and his gang is their main CIA controller. They have criminally and visciously attacked our site and our members. Acquiring funding for both the GBC and the ritviks at the same time, Pada, the liar and propaganda hit man, is clearly a master of the con game.
Iskcon Dandavats of course banned us for speaking against their poisonning of the spiritual master and thievery of everything long ago. So we are 100% universally banned by those who have something to hide. They cannot stand the light of the hard truth presented unabashedly and with literary proofs and back-up articles on this site. Apparently they fear exposure so much, they seek to squash us by banning us; the very sort of behaviors they complain about from the original poisonners, the GayBCs. ! They have no answers to the charges laid, so must hide. They fear that the devotees will awaken to the abuses and restart the movement free from influence of the Illuminati.
All these dupes or liars pretend to be in favor of Truth, but in reality they simply push concocted deviations from Srila Prabhupada's orders, and anyone who dares to point out these deviations, is banned. In fact, for example, anyone daring to expose their regular thefts from Temple coffers such as by temple officers in Toronto , is immediately banned for any attempts to speak up for honesty. I had direct experience of this while serving in the restaurant there, and was warned not to dare say anything about the abuses going on, as one after another, Bhaktimurder here in Canada has sytematically ousted all the Godbrothers to shore up his ego-empire of abuse.
There is no longer any free thought or speech in Iskcon, only propaganda and those who think they have a right to censor the devotees from thinking freely in a bid to seize power and control for their own ego-brokered programs. And when one digs deeply, both Iskcon-co Gaybcs and the Jayapataka-split ritviks, you will find that much of the funding comes from the GSM globalist powers. Follow the money, you will see who is in control and what is the real plan, even if the front -persons are compartmentalized and do not know who is controlling them. Everything we disowned the material world for , and joined Iskcon for, is now incorporated into itsaconco!
There is no contradictiory philosophy; either one accepts and follows Srila Prabhupada, or not! It IS that simple, but he and the other obscurers have turned Iskcon into a circus of guesswork and cheap opinions.
Prabhupadanugas EU - These conned-men fooled the alternative movement and many neophytes, who know no better, via controlled trend-setting by the CIA and NWO, in the globalist's game of divide and conquer; same as the British did in India, they do now yet again to our movement. They pretend to be an alternative to Jayapataka's Iskcon, and so have formed a split-off group that has had success with compromised globalist money.
We hear so many complaints from ex Bangalore devotees of stolen money, abuses of power, devotees being milked then kicked out from there. They are thus influenced by false prestige and money-ed men, very materially ambitious. They are worshippers of South Indian style Laxmi Narayana, not so much of Radha Krsna and Vrndavana, so it is no surprise that they are enamorred of magnificent opulence.
They fancy huge buildings costing crores of lakhs of rupees, while the devotees live in abusive situations. I once guesstimated it costs over $18,000 dollars per devotee they initiate! Here, the cost per devotee is about $54. per initiation. Their success in the form of many buildings and materially-bewildered corporate followers comes from money obtained from the very demons we wish to defeat ; the murderers who killed our spiritual master! So either the demons have changed their tune, not likely, or Bangalore temple is a front for a massive con.
In reality they are now part of the Illuminati globalist game, and those ignorantly following them are, or soon will be, simply reduced to ineffective controlled duped slaves for globalist money.
They currently do not hesitate to use any sort of slimy abusive and criminal tactics, including lying, impersonating others, and thus trying to destroy the personal lives of devotees; so they are just like ISKCON; would-be murderers, but slimier and darker, if that is possible, thus our discussion must deal with these. They regularly print any garbage even by those out-right attacking Srila Prabhupada, such as the gross blasphemer and violent abuser of Vaisnavas, Saksi Gopal and other such insane persons, who call for outright violence by Indians against Iskcon members.
Falling under the sway of Yasodanandana, Puranjana and his CIA crazies, the conmen of Prabhupadanugas EU demonstrate their lack of philosophical knowledge, and print anything supporting their personal power plans and globalist agenda, or that blasphemes other devotees, such as telling outright fabricated lies against Gour Govinda Swami, and me too, come to think of it, in a working bid to contaminate issues, pervert the mind, then divide and conquer, and thus keep the movement down, fighting against itself, including endlessly in court.
They of course refuse to print anything exposing their own funding sources, whom are globalist corporations, Bill Gates et al, and other Freemasons and the same Illuminati Cabalists who plotted Srila Prabhupada's murder. Are they really that stupid? I suspect a purposive plot at the top, perhaps under legal or death threats to the Bangalore leaders...they appear not to have any worldy intelligence, but are naively like children led by the nose by such obvious CIA men as Puranjana et al.
For example of their systematic nazi-like abuses, they use spying tactics, such as inquiring from rikshaw-wallas about the activities of their preachers, this from one of their own members is reported, and record their activities from their cell-phones, and use other heavy-handed gestapo-like control techniques against their own temple members, demonstrating their priorities of controlling devotees to raise ever-more money under an abusive totalitarian authority. And if you do not follow their line exactly, why out you go, no concern at all, you are just one of hundreds of fools. These are corporatists and business men using the movement to further the ends of the elites. Wake up, please, you fools!
Iskconco.(GayBCs) - 100% controlled by disgusting conmen and phony lusty looney-gooroos, totally owned by globalist forces via Janet Reno, Robbernath, and the CIA, and pro homosexuality and slavery. Just follow the trail of arsenic, stolen money, low sleazy illicit sex between guru and gay boys, CIA controlled murder and consequent takeover, and vile despicable murders and ousting of thousands of otherwise pure servants of Srila Prabhupada. They have done everything possible to destroy Srila Prabhupada's instructions and servants totally. They are so obviously phony as to make anyone of any degree of spiritual intelligence feel sick, angry, and disgusted, just to see their phony pervert faces.
Their followers are too often like sycophants, sexual and social deviants, and those who will believe any baloney they are told. They are fond of hierarchies and rigid class structures, abuse of innocents and persons in their care, surveillance and spying using neophytes to attack senior devotees, bannings of dedicated life-long preachers of Gaudiya Vaisnavism, paying wages to sold-out stupid fools to obey and worship their feet, cheating and lying and gambling with false gurus, centralization of power into hands of disgusting gay freaks, money-hoarding while starving and abusing their followers, gross and subtle violence, and all manners of grossest sense gratification including child rape. They operate by making economic and social threats to the slaves; exactly the same as the dirtiest demons in the karmi society. In the name of Srila Prabhupada, they carry out the lowest most heinous activities that even child molesters would blush at.
And what is that Truth they are all so afraid of ? That Srila Prabhupada is a revolutionary calling for Vaisnava rule and government, for ousting the demons and the Great Sinister Movement, that we are all servants of Krsna and His devotees in deepest spiritual reality. All Prabhupada's servants are equals; those hoarding money and doling it out to the dupe-slaves are the lowest reptilean scum.
The Great Sinster Movement is within our society, Srila Prabhupada warned us all. We did not listen, so he was murdered while right before our eyes. Now, after killing Prabhupada's body and stealing everything, the killers have become a farcical evil bizarro-land imitation of the Krsna consciousness Movement.
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I heard that Bhaktimurder Grosswami has reformed and is no longer chasing boys! Yes, he and the GBC are fully reformed. They only screw female disciples nowadays!
ISKCON "Authority"
BY: MAHAVIDYA DAS (ACBSP)
Jul 14, 2012 — UK (SUN) —
And while we're on the subject of ISKCON authority…
I would like to share once again these two little gems that came straight from the vyasasana during the Srimad Bhagavatam class at ISKCON's Bhaktivedanta Manor.
For those of you out there who consider this repetitive… well, you're darned right…
but…
it shows the mindset of some of our local er... leaders.
The first one must be the most classic of all time:
"We should all do what the temple authorities tell us to do… even if we know it's wrong… because… this would please Srila Prabhupada."
Fantastic.
Basically this means...
knowing our ISKCON history…
murder…sodomize...take drugs…prostitute the women…beat the heck out of the kids…in fact, do practically anything.
But…
it's all OK.
because using this ISKCON managerial logic…
we would be "pleasing Srila Prabhupada".
And the second came from the lips of Abhay das (now swami… disciple of ISKCON guru Radhanatha):
"The GBC are the ultimate managerial authority in ISKCON, therefore anyone who is against the GBC is against Srila Prabhupada."
Nectar bliss... knowing our ISKCON GBC history... ditto the above.
Someone please tell me…
Are we all supposed to become brain dead in ISKCON?
Just who up there has the shared ISKCON brain cell today?
Now...
one would have hoped a senior member of ISKCON management would have said something at the 'any questions or comments' section at the end of the class.
Perhaps the temple president or even a department head…
but…
need I say more…
there was nobody there.
HasyaMukhi.com (Part Two)
BY: HASYA MUKHI DEVI DASI
Jul 14, 2012 — USA (SUN) — Well, goodness gracious me, I just might have bitten off more than I can chew with my proposed website. After all, maybe ISKCON News does provide the most comprehensive and cutting edge glimpse of the full nectarine that responsible devotees need. And I mean, the essence required for pushing on the sankirtan movement. I just came from their site and was astounded at the vast assortment of pertinent articles that our GBC Minister of Information, His Grace Shriman Anuttama das Prabhu, feels are essential for the spiritual equilibrium of ISKCON's rank and file like you. Here from today's issue of ISKCON News' World section are some of those vital messages:
Essay Contest for Young Hindu Americans
The Five Best Summertime Detox Beverages
Finding Some Principles by Telling Some Lies: Vikram Gandhi's ‘Kumaré: The True Story of a False Prophet'
Sistine Chapel Choir And Westminster Abbey Choir Join For Special Mass At Vatican
My oh my, that will be a hard act to follow. Well, maybe we could do something about Hillary Clinton doing Namaste or some Hollywood actress' Hindu marriage. So be that as it may be, Prabhus, here are more intended articles that we would like to see published on our proposed website.
THE SOCIOLOGICAL VALUE OF THE CHURCH GROUP AS A MEANS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL MUTUAL SUPPORT FOR INCREASED PERSONAL EMPOWERMENT AND WORLD BETTERMENT – This article should be written in college-ese speak—like some of the theological articles on ISKCON News—to impress the reader that you are really smart and know what you are talking about. This thesis should emphasize the emotional value of organized religious structures and should give examples of human support like holding hands at sunset, playing healthy sports together like volleyball, enjoying group yoga at church picnics, etc. Furthermore, it must further the policies of ISKCON's "academic gurus", who send their submissive disciples off to college for more than a half dozen years so that they can tout their degrees before potential bosses and grovel before them for a job. It must dilate upon how a useful member of ISKCON can simultaneously be a practicing interfaith academic karmi while maintaining his or her status as a part-time or weekend devotee. (Min. 128,000 words)
BISHOPS, POPES AND ISKCON GURUS – This will be an article about achievement. The author should research how it took the Catholic Church thousands of years to become, well, the Catholic Church. Yet through using superior intelligence and foresight, ISKCON's stoic leadership has created the very model of the Catholic Church in only one generation. One of the major differences is that whereas the Catholics observe Mass, ISKCON celebrates Mass Exodus due to the rigid leadership of its GBC.
ZONALISM IS ALIVE AND WELL – Shrila Prabhupada says that just as a secretary longs to take over the seat he serves, so Mayavadis pretend to serve the Lord, though they really want to steal His position. That's remarkably similar to what ISKCON witnessed with the advent of Zonal Acharya-ism and the eleven temporary divine manifestations (ETDM's). This article should explain the brilliant and shrewd business tactics of ISKCON today's intrepid leaders who have developed their own elite fiefdoms with huge bank accounts, personal business interests and charities registered in their own names in pursuance of the original policies enacted by those very ETDM's—all for the benefit of the suffering world, of course.
MY FREE FORTY YEAR VACATION – Over the next few years some of our stalwart GBC's will be approaching a real milestone: four decades of the good life. And HasyaMukhi.com will be right alongside each one of them to help them celebrate it. This series of articles will include interviews by yours truly with our intrepid leaders who will disclose a few of their secret managerial skills. Never-before revealed techniques like how you can get other people to pay for your free air fare all over the world, to meet you at the airport, to cook and clean for you, to massage you and then write books and poems about you. And as a reward, all you have to do is just give your faithful votaries nothing in return (except high interest rate loans or your used socks).
WE'VE HEARD ENOUGH! – This article will address a certain ISKCON sannyasi who actually has the temerity to find fault with the policies that our Gleeful Benevolent Companions still promote to this day, which he claims are all mostly subtle perversions of Zonal Acharya-ism. Enough is enough! We cannot tolerate any further criticism by whippersnappers of our Greatly Beloved Chiefs who have dedicated every second of their very lives to receiving the free service and worship of others.
The GBC Effectively Eliminates Gurus
BY: MADHUDVISA DASA
Jul 13, 2012 — AUSTRALIA (SUN) — I am very happy to see the new article on Sampradaya Sun by Raya Nitai dasa Vanacari on the new GBC 'Parallel Lines of Authority' paper. The points he made are very well presented and his article is well worth a careful reading. He has covered the main points very nicely, I just want to add one small observation.
When I joined ISKCON in 1986, the Zonal Acharya system was in full swing and ISKCON was preaching that their gurus were liberated, self-realized paramahamsas who were on the same level as Srila Prabhupada. At that time they had divided the planet into zones and in each zone, the 'acharya' was the supreme and absolute authority. In those days all the authority was with the Zonal Acharyas, and practically the GBC had no authority at all. Each zone was independently managed by the Zonal Acharya.
In the mid 80's it became obvious to almost everyone that ISKCON's so-called acharyas were not really pure devotees and were far, far below the transcendental platform of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Many of them fell down very publicly and embarrassingly for ISKCON. There was some confusion for some time and even a short period where many devotees in ISKCON rediscovered Srila Prabhupada and took shelter of him after their gurus fell down. Around 1996, in conjunction with Narayana Maharaja, the GBC published a paper stating that the guru does not have to be a pure devotee, does not have to be liberated, can be a conditioned soul, etc. Then the GBC elevated many of the devotees who were very anxious to get promoted to the platform of guru to the status of "non-liberated guru". Soon there were more than 100 new ISKCON gurus.
Then this problem with authority in ISKCON become a serious management issue. It became an impossible situation because now, unlike in the Zonal Acharya days, where all the devotees in a temple and the temple president would all be disciples of the same guru, now there were so many gurus in ISKCON all preaching slightly different versions of the philosophy, and in a temple the devotees and temple authorities were disciples of many different gurus... Disciples of one guru did not like to accept the authority of the temple president, particularly if the temple president was a disciple of a different guru... And 'gurus' did not like temple presidents exercising authority over their disciples, particularly if the temple president was not their disciple. So the whole ISKCON organization became practically impossible to manage and it was a very unsatisfactory situation for both disciples and gurus. No one was happy and no one really knew who was his authority. Should he surrender to his guru? Should he surrender to the GBC? Should he surrender to the temple president? This really became a big problem, particularly if the three authorities were giving the disciple contradictory instructions...
So that is the brief history of authority in ISKCON since the physical disappearance of Srila Prabhupada. Of course, before Srila Prabhupada disappeared from our mundane vision there was no confusion at all. Prabhupada was the Spiritual Master and authority for everyone in ISKCON and he had appointed as his representatives the GBC and the temple presidents, and they were authorities in ISKCON to the extent that they were surrendered servants of Srila Prabhupada and Krishna. So Srila Prabhupada established the actual true system of spiritual authority. And that same system continues today, in fact. The person who is the real authority in ISKCON is the person who is surrendered to Srila Prabhupada and Krishna and who is simply representing Srila Prabhupada. Which means actually the real authority in ISKCON Is Srila Prabhupada and one can be respected as an authority in ISKCON only to the extent that he is actually a surrendered soul at the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada and to the degree that he is able to inspire his subordinates to purely surrender to and serve Srila Prabhupada.
There has been an ongoing fight between the GBC and the gurus for the authority in ISKCON. But neither the GBC nor the gurus are entitled to the authority in ISKCON according to Srila Prabhupada's management system. Srila Prabhupada established ISKCON as a confederation of independent temples. Prabhupada is completely against any centralization of the management of ISKCON. In fact, Atraya Rsi attempted to establish a centralized management system, giving some authority to the GBC in this regard, and when Srila Prabhupada discovered this he was so angry that he completely dissolved the GBC and put the management of ISKCON back in the hands of the temple presidents.
Actually Srila Prabhupada's system for management and authority in ISKCON is completely local and completely decentralized. His vision is the local temple authorities will manage the temple and organize things according to their ability and level of realizations. Prabhupada's system is 'unity in diversity', so his vision is that the temples may be diverse. Not that every temple will be exactly the same as every other temple. There is room in Prabhupada's ISKCON for his disciples to develop the preaching in different ways in different temples. And in Prabhupada's management system there is a very important role for the GBC, but they are not authorities over the temples, nor are they meant to be involved in the management of the temples. The GBC's are supposed to be advanced devotees who will constantly travel to all the different temples in their zones and will preach and inspire the devotees. And their responsibility is to see that the spiritual standards of the temples are maintained. It is the GBC's responsibility to see that every devotee in every temple in his zone is rising before 4:00 am in the morning, attending the Mangal-Aroti, chanting at least 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra on japa beads, strictly following the four regulative principles, attending the Bhagavatam class and going out daily on sankirtan, distributing Prabhupada's books and congregationally chanting the Hare Krishna maha-mantra. But the GBC has no management authority over the temple. The GBC is not in charge of the temple. The local temple authorities are in charge of the temple.
In Srila Prabhupada's management system, the GBC has no power to remove a temple president, for example -- that is up to the local temple devotees. If, however, there is a unanimous vote of the GBC, they may be able to exercise some authority, but the basic principle is they only act in an advisory capacity to the temple management and the temple management is the authority in the temple.
Anyhow, for some years in ISKCON they tried to run with this impossible 'parallel lines of authority' where a devotee was supposed to accept his guru, his temple president and his GBC all as authorities, and in many cases they would all give him contradictory instructions... So such a system is not at all practical. Therefore, now the GBC has proclaimed with this new 'parallel lines' paper that there are actually no parallel lines of authority in ISKCON, the only authority in ISKCON is the GBC and everyone must surrender to and serve the GBC. They make it very clear that initiating gurus are no exemption to this. They must also surrender to and serve the GBC...
There is absolutely no mention or even admission of the concept that a devotee in ISKCON should surrender to and serve Srila Prabhupada and Krishna. This idea has been replaced with the idea of surrender to the GBC... But the GBC is simply a political body composed of men and women who possess the four defects of conditioned souls: they make mistakes, they cheat, they are illusioned and they have imperfect senses. Unfortunately if one surrenders to conditioned souls like this, there is no hope for him in making spiritual advancement. Krishna advises in the beginning of the Bhagavad-gita that if one wants to make spiritual advancement, he must surrender to a bona fide spiritual master, inquire submissively, render service and offer obeisances because such a self-realized soul can give him real knowledge, as he has seen the truth. ISKCON has long ago rejected these clear instructions from Krishna and openly preaches to the devotees that they should surrender to 'spiritual masters' who are not self-realized and who have not seen the truth, and that somehow they will benefit from this.
But now, since this new parallel lines paper has become ISKCON law, they have practically eliminated the guru from ISKCON. Now the guru in ISKCON is simply a servant of the centralized, bureaucratic and dictatorial GBC, who give orders which the 'gurus' must follow, or be considered 'rogue gurus' and face excommunication from ISKCON. There are no parallel lines of authority any more. There is only one authority, the GBC, and everyone in ISKCON must surrender to and serve the GBC.
Like so many of the GBC's 'laws', this is completely contradictory to the teachings of Srila Prabhupada and has no validity whatsoever. It is maya. The GBC is in maya and they are simply speaking like mad crazy men. There is no sense whatsoever in their new 'parallel lines' law.
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Your servant
Madhudvisa dasa
Just one example of Iskcon mismanagement and abuse of devotees by globalist corporatists, such as the capitalist pig, Abhirama the Snot-Nosed ;
Aravinda das says:
Back in the ’90s I decided to dedicate my life to a true ISKCON project, one that could not be taken away, Sridham Mayapura. At my own expense I traveled to Mayapur to meet with the two GBC in charge: Jayapataka and Harikesh. I made a proposal presentation to establish a tree nursery for Mayapur. Based upon a number of extended tours of India I had determined that there were no professional large tree nurseries in the whole sub-continent! Indian nurseries had a very limited selection of small to medium trees, and no large, high quality, high branched trees at all. If Mayapur was to have landscaping of an international standard, we needed to grow our own trees. This would also allow the introduction of trees like Avocados, Macadamias and many other superior varieties then unavailable in Bengal. The nursery was to be to highest western standard.
My proposal was enthusiastically received, and official GBC resolutions to buy 20 acres of land and fund the nursery were passed. At my own expense, I moved to Mayapur and rented accommodations to live there. We managed to find twenty acres of land directly across the Ganga on high ground that did not flood. The land was bought and I had a tall wall built around the whole property(a necessity in India). During this wall construction phase, I did extensive research and drew up development plans for the nursery. This dealt with things like irrigation, propagation facility, necessary equipment like tractor and cultivator, workforce, sources of plant germ-plasm, etc. So almost a year after my arrival, I completed the master plan, including a very spartan budget and submitted it through Jayapataka Swami for Mayapur GBC approval. The big-shots, for some reason, decided to hold their meeting in London, and I was not invited. Later I heard through a third party that Abhiram, that pompous aristocrat, had made an offhand comment that he figured that the nursery served no purpose as, when needed, mature trees could be bought cheaply “somewhere”. The project was unceremoniously canceled.