Open Abuse of Devotees
BY: LALITA DEVI DASI
May 06, 2013 — USA (SUN) — I just wanted to comment on a recent article by Mahapurusha dasa titled "Higher Ethical and Moral Standards". I really can't believe that Ravindra Svarupa dasa is still in power after all of this. Obviously the evidence is stacked against him and he even admits that he assaulted Ghandharvika dasi, in convoluted terms. How is it that we can have clear and open abuse of devotees in this movement and this person is still in charge?
And where is the outrage from the esteemed female leaders like Malati, Laksmimoni and Urmila Prabhus? Its funny that they are all pushing for female gurus, but are failing to stand up for the very basic human treatment of women in this movement. It proves to me, and other female devotees that I know, that they clearly care more about their positions of power than they do for advocating for the decent treatment of other matajis.
Another interesting thing I noticed after following this incident from the beginning, is the complete lack of defense from any of this so-called gurus disciples and from any individual ISKCON leaders. This really indicates that everyone else probably feels the way me and other devotees I know feel about this issue. If we have clear and open abuse of devotees, whether male or female, I think this movement is finished. How can any women in ISKCON stand for this? The GBC, especially Malati, should be totally ashamed. I saw a picture of her sitting next to Ravindra recently at a GBC meeting. Some advocate she is for women in this movement.
He needs to resign. I have seen devotees treated badly before but this is ridiculous. And Ghandharvika should also be ashamed of herself for not standing up for herself and not pushing for his resignation. I understand why she minimized it, but it is a disservice to Vaishnavis everywhere.
But this is my message to Ravindra: Everyone knows what you did, how can you be so shameless? Step down on your own, because when Krishna gets rid of you, which He will, it's not going to be pretty. This guy has to be stopped, and I am calling on the female leaders especially. It's really a shame how they sold out to the "good old boys" club and threw the rest of us women under a bus. A leader shouldn't even touch a person in the private areas of their body, what to speak of kicking them there. Ravindra, you need to go immediately.
Your servant,
Laltita devi dasi
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Ravindra Svarupa Controversy
BY: DEVI DEVI DASI
May 11, 2013 — USA (SUN) —
I wanted to comment on the recent article posted by Lalita devi dasi about Ravindra Svarupa. What the heck is going on with this movement? I know that there have been many abuses of power and people in the past in ISKCON, but this is certainly a different time where at least we have the Internet. Devotees, especially female devotees, are talking about this everywhere I have been and it is certainly an open controversy. Doesn't the GBC see that not removing this person from any position of authority severely weakens their own authority? How can anyone with a brain in their head accept a leadership that allows a "guru" to assault a person so blatantly?
What recourse does anyone now have if something like this happens to them? If the GBC had any sense, they would have called the police themselves. Ravindra Svarupa is a total liability to this movement. People like him who casually abuse people are million dollar lawsuits waiting to happen. Judging from the articles by Mahapurusha, Ravindra allegedly treats devotees badly as a matter of course. What bad preaching it is not removing this person from power. I told my mother about this incident and the first thing she said was, "How can you be a part of a religion that allows its leaders to treat people like that?" What a revealing statement coming from a person who is totally favorable to our philosophy.
In all my years as a member of ISKCON, this is the worst cover-up of abuse I personally ever experienced. Obviously there have been other worse abuses, but the way that the GBC has stuck its head in the sand about this one is revolting. This cover-up of Ravindra Svarupa is sending a clear statement to all the members of ISKCON that the leadership cares nothing about the members of this movement and only about the position of its leaders.
My question is, what would have happened if someone had kicked Malati in her backside? Well, obviously you see that her feelings and dignity matter a lot more than poor Ghandharvika. Some equal vision these people have, what a tragedy of decency. I hope the GBC wakes up and sees that Ravindra and people like him are the last thing this movement needs as "leaders". It's just bad management and even worse preaching, especially to the devotees
The devotees are cowards, useless little pukes, who sit back and watch big pukes abuse their women and children and them also, and meanwhile kiss their feet like stupid slaves.
NOTE; Janardana dasa and Yugavatara call us disciples of Srila Prabhupada dogs, declare they will rewrite ISKCON history to make murderers like Tamala asura into heroes, and thus usurp the future in the name of the Illuminati elites. HOW IS ANY KIND OF COMPROMISE WITH THESE PIECES OF CRAP POSSIBLE? iT IS NOT yUGAVATARA; LAWYER/LIAR WHO HELPED STEAL ALL OUR TEMPLES AND GIVE THEM TO PIGS. jANARDANA; ANOTHER fORD nwo rich ELITE, DUPED INTO KISSING bHAVANANDA'S GAY ASS ALONG WITH HIS COUSIN AMBURISH. The NWO OWNS Iskcon.