Rama Nrsimha Das
Regarding what Srila Prabhupada actually desired for initiations after his disappearance.
Hardly surprisingly, in light of what actually transpired, it's been pretty turbulent subsequent to Srila Prabhupada's departure...
From Bhagavat Maharaja
To Narasingha Das..
//You all basically have the story correct. Srila Prabhupada asked Tamal to call the GBC together to discuss choosing one of two of His disciples who would do all the initiations. Tamal promised to convene the GBC members to discuss who those two persons would be.
After a day Srila Prabhupada asked what the progress was and Tamal said they had not met yet. Then again in a day or so Srila Prabhupada asked if they had met and discussed and Tamal said no. At this point, Srila Prabhupada offered to give Tamal an idea of who Srila Prabhupada thought would be the best two persons to do the initiations.
Tamal asked Srila Prabhupada to please give him the names. Srila Prabhupada said either Radha Govinda Maharaja and Gour Govinda Maharaja or both. Tamal externally was composed but he was livid that these men would be chosen over the disciples who had helped him build the mission. Tamal never understood it was about the purity of consciousness, not the number of man-hours a person had worked for Srila Prabhupada.
After a couple of days, Srila Prabhupada inquired again from Tamal if the GBC convened and discussed the matter and appointed one or two persons to give the initiations. Tamal said no. At this point, Srila Prabhupada knew what their intentions were and he said "oh now everything is finished".
Bhakti Caru Mahara
You sent Yesterday at 8:53 PM
Bhakti Caru Maharaja. I had always hoped that Caru Maharaja would have the courage to come forward and tell the truth of what happened but he did not and now he has expired.//
Tamohara dasa; Unfortunately, the version of this story coming from
Cyavana Swami differs greatly. Also, Puri Maharajaha contradicts this statement from the associate of a known glay poisoner and usurper. Lastly, everything Srila Prabhupada orherwise said and did contradicts this statement also. Therefore, it cannot be taken as evidence, but as a narrative being pushed by those who favor the cia poisoners. This single statement by a non-devotee associate of a murderer carries almost ZERO weight, therefore.
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Mohini Murti Devi Dasi shared Nityananda Das's post. ;
VERY RELEVANT TESTIMONY FROM CYAVANA SWAMI
On September 6, 2017, Nityananda das received an email reply to questions he had put to Cyavana Swami, an very early Srila Prabhupada disciple who manages a preaching and gardening facility in Williston, Florida called Camp Garuda. The reply was:
“Yes, I have stated this many times.....some understand it, but most don't and it usually causes some to become agitated. Most devotees never really understood who Srila Prabhupada is. The initiation means to begin on the path of Bhakti, each one must figure out how to take that first step. Srila Prabhupada made it perfectly clear to me that we are not his only disciples. His instruction was,"I have given you everything, don't change anything... I will have millions of disciples." These are the most important instructions Srila Prabhupada ever gave us for the future of his Movement.
“In my discussions with Prabhupada the subject of adding to and changing the books and philosophy came up frequently, but the question of what to do regarding initiations after he was no longer with us was very difficult to ask, it was almost unthinkable at the time that he would not always be with us. Myself and Brahmananda Swami were in Srila Prabhupada's room one morning in Nairobi, Kenya in 1975, at first he seemed surprised at the question, as if he had already made it very clear. We were performing initiations his behalf all over the world for some years, so he said to simply continue as he had been training us, "on my behalf " was not just for then, it is for always. His answer was clear and simple.
“I am encouraged, especially over the past few years, by the many devotees who are clearly understanding this and Srila Prabhupada's unique and exalted position in our Sampradaya. If someone wants to add to or change a book they can do so in their own name, and of course we must have "instructor gurus" and teachers to guide disciples on the path, but only Srila Prabhupada will fulfill the promise to take us all home, that is certain. I share this with you as a friend. As far as the general population devotees, let them think whatever they want, at least they have a start, many here including me are inspired by your work.”
RECAP:
(1). "I have given you everything, don't change anything... I will have millions of disciples."
(2). “We were performing initiations on his behalf all over the world for some years, so he said to simply continue as he had been training us, "on my behalf " was not just for then, it is for always.”
Satyahit das confirmed that Cyavana Swami has been consistently stating these memories for many years.
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