The self-realized person is Krsna conscious,

[Tamohara dasa ADMIN.]

Letter exchange;

"Powerful statements in your deeply experienced letters, M. They make me think in new angles of vision., and/or reassert or reassess my own findings and suspicions.

Yes, individual devotees seeking to "fix up" their samadhi meditations as new members of iskcon doing sadhana may erect protective mental barriers /adopt coping behaviors, to help maintain internal stability of vision and mood, in a situation in which all their old ways are being severely challenged.  The institution facilitates this detachment from normal reality by substituting an alternative engagement at all levels 24 hours. Thus, in course of dropping away of false ego, the aspirant temporarily has an imperfect vision but a pure goal to aspire towards, clearing stages of chanting to go through, and a life to maintain. This is no easy task, as it involves total self-control in the form of devotional surrender.

After some while, the aspirant has been involved with his new identity, partially false, being earthly-institutional, earthly, not having fully realized the known necessity of the change of heart, the internal turn-around, attained by dint of faith obtained by the power of mercy leading to divine ecstasy, which trashes  the fear and confusion and lights the direction. The turn is from selfish motivations to an actual desire to serve born of affection and devotion. For some, once having attained by grace enough of an inkling, become extraordinarily detached from matter, caring not a fig for it anymore. Even some realize the futility of material association and materially-motivated actions, which turn in due course to mud and dissatisfaction and embarrassments.

Often the clearing-stage neophyte becomes involved once again with false ego in the form of identification with a cult or power hierarchy, which after all is set-up in Itsacon to dominate him/her totally and absolutely, and thus control. And who benefits? The same ones as now control the Vatican etc. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta warns that as soon as a true spiritual movement is bottled up in the form of an institution, then all the material flaws immediately appear and break the container, that such religion is a social construct meant to control people, that it is the end of true spirituality. That is the itsacon stolen and run by the Luciferians and CIA under control of big time Rakshasas on multi-dimensional / alien  demonic platforms.

One of the powers of the fallen itsacon is to force the devotee to eventually break out of the containing institutional shell, to acquire self-directed morality based upon experience and maturity with the path of following pure sastra and pure devotees. The good shepherd keeps that path straight and true and sharp enough, for one who accepts and surrenders, with intelligence, not mere obeyance. Obeyance is part of lower-level morality based upon societal pressures and internalized fears arising therefrom. Mom, then family, then local community, then nation, then world, then all living things, then Krsna. The self-realized person is Krsna conscious, and thus makes choices of actions based upon motivations of Godhead rather than fallen jivas.

So, by dint of being such a screwed over place, the neophyte will eventually have to break with the constraints of religious controlled cultism, and instead make decisions for themself, seeing as itsacon is currently such a degraded cult.

PS I am flabbergasted by the developments of Krsna culture in your part of the world !! Very hard to back up when so much has gone one, but i suppose right-headed Srila Prabhupada disciples can gradually reattain doctrinal dominance and eventually physical control of all itsacon cult creations current. (Rahu says hello ! from Saggitarius or wherever. )

[Tamohara dasa ADMIN.]

Powerful statements in your deeply expereinced letetrs, Mohini. They make me think in new angles of vision., and/or reassert or reassess my own findings and suspicions.

Yes, individual devotees seeking to "fix up" their samadhi meditations as new members of iskcon doing sadhana may erect protective mental barriers /adopt coping behaviors, to help maintain internal stability of vision and mood, in a situation in which all their old ways are being severely challenged.  The institution facilitates this detachment from normal reality by substituting an alternative engagement at all levels 24 hours. Thus, in course of dropping away of false ego, the aspirant temporarily has an imperfect vision but a pure goal to aspire towards, clearing stages of chanting to go through, and a life to maintain. This is no easy task, as it involves total self-control in the form of devotional surrender.

After some while, the aspirant has been involved with his new identity, partially false, being earthly-institutional, earthly, not having fully realized the known necessity of the change of heart, the internal turn-around, attained by dint of faith obtained by the power of mercy leading to divine ecstasy, which trashes  the fear and confusion and lights the direction. The turn is from selfish motivations to an actual desire to serve born of affection and devotion. For some, once having attained by grace enough of an inkling, become extraordinarily detached from matter, caring not a fig for it anymore. Even some realize the futility of material association and materially-motivated actions, which turn in due course to mud and dissatisfaction and embarrassments.

Often the clearing-stage neophyte becomes involved once again with false ego in the form of identification with a cult or power hierarchy, which after all is set-up in Itsacon to dominate him/her totally and absolutely, and thus control. And who benefits? The same ones as now control the Vatican etc. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta warns that as soon as a true spiritual movement is bottled up in the form of an institution, then all the material flaws immediately appear and break the container, that such religion is a social construct meant to control people, that it is the end of true spirituality. That is the itsacon stolen and run by the Luciferians and CIA under control of big time Rakshasas on multi-dimensional / alien  demonic platforms.