Alex Jones Calls Out Obama for Treason;courtesy Hasti Gopal Prabhu et al (acbssp)

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Hasti Gopal Prabhu;  

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From: charles dowson <[e-mail]>
To: Uttama Sloka Dasa <[e-mail]>; Tomohara Dasa <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 8:43:30 AM
Subject: RE: The Economic Collapse

Alex Jones sums it up very well in this posting here: The US is being de-industrialized for the sake of the demons. The people will be pushed to the point of rebellion regardless of being so poor. They are using their own people to govern them the way the British used the Indians to govern themselves for the sake of the British. Chandra Bose formed the Indian National Army to get them out. By that real threat the British realized that they could not face the INA so they left, not because of Ghandi. I am including that information at the bottom it was forwarded to me from Laxmi dasa. I did not know of this history until Srila Prabhupada revealed it to me here and now to you.
 
So the US military, police and National Guard are being informed via Oathkeepers and real Americanshttp://oathkeepers.org/oath/ that the FP  Foreign Power will be forcibly removed from their present positions of power and any collaborators along with them.
 

Alex Jones Calls Out Obama for Treason

 
http://www.prisonplanet.com/alex-jones-calls-out-obama-for-treason.html
 
Before I go any further here is an update on the Gulf Stream situation. Many claim it is dead and it's function now whatever it is is useless. I'll keep sifting the info. YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o9U_mLTXjo&feature=related

Tamoharadasa to Hasti Gopal Prabhu and Uttamasloka Prabhu;

Obeisances.

 

In brief; I am myself well aware of these demonic take-over and break-off civilization issues, and am actively engaged in fighting the demons by spreading Krsna conscious materials in that regards, informing governement officials, informing devotees especially. My website with 175 members is devoted to just that. https://puredevoteeseva.ning.com/. Our header; We DECLARE WAR ON MAYA.

Uttama replies; It gives a new meaning to the term...  Punch-a Tattva!

 

Are you aware there is a good chance that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned  by globalist agents? Or that Ford, father of Ambarisa, is closely associated with just such programs in the NWO organizations? 

U;  Let's hear more about those connections.  What have you found?

The rabbitt hole goes very deep, such that it is not an Iskcon issue  but a world issue. The temple is the whole world, and we must try to cleanse it, even if it appears a hopeless case.

We are mind/heart cleaners!

 

I follow Alex and several others. He speaks very hard truths, many of which are actually true! I have made it a point in my preaching at new age and other web sites exacatly as told below; that only serious opposition will be effective, it is not enough to talk and hold high ideals. We are in  no position to oppose them militarily currently, so we must instead  preach viroously and get the masses awakened.

;  Consciousness is their real enemy, and God consciousness is the best.

 

Your assistance, or cooperative plans, are welcome.

;  Onward Krsna's soldiers!

 

HK Ys

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:57:56 +0000
Subject: [HareKrsnaDhama] politics, violence, Subhash Chandra Bose, and the ksatriya spirit

Srila Prabhupada;

"They are thinking like that. Even Subhash Chandra Bose, he was a politician. He came to my Guru Maharaja that 'So many people, you have captured them. They are doing nothing for nationalism.' So Guru Maharaja said, 'Well, for your national propaganda you require very strong men, but these people are very weak. You can see. They are very skinny. So don't put your glance upon them. Let them eat something and chant Hare Krsna.' He avoided like that."
(Srila Prabhupada, lecture on Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.41, given in Mayapura, on October 21st, 1974)
"Well, in politics, unless there is violence, you cannot take. Simply by sweet words, not possible. That was the difference between our political leaders, Mahatma Gandhi and Subhash Chandra Bose. So Subhash Chandra Bose was of opinion that—and that is a fact—that 'You are agitating non-violence. These people will never care for your non-violence. Unless there is violence, so these Britishers will never go away.' So Gandhi would say, 'No, I am not going to accept this violence theory. I shall continue.' So for thirty years... He started from 1917 and up to '47, the Britishers did not go. But when Subhash Chandra Bose, he saw... He took the political power. He became the president. But Gandhi was angry. So because he was old leader, out of respect, he resigned the presidentship. Then he though that 'So long this man will live, there will be no independence.' So he went out of India and joined with Hitler, and Tojo, Japanese."
(Srila Prabhupada, Morning Walk -- December 30th, 1973, Los Angeles)
"This Subhash Chandra Bose. And he organized the INA, Indian National Army. So when this Indian National Army was organized and the Britishers... They were great politicians. They saw, 'Now the army is going to national movement. We cannot be.' Then they left. Because it was not possible. They were maintaining British Empire with Indian money, Indian men. You see? They did not conquer by their British soldiers all round the Far East, Burma and the Mesopotamia, and the Egypt. That was Indian army, the Sikh soldiers and the Gurkha soldiers, and Indian money. On the pretext that 'For Indian protection, we are maintaining this army.' Actually, they were expanding their empire. Africa, Burma. And when they saw that 'India is lost,' voluntarily they liquidated all others. Went back... Back to home, back to Godhead. (devotees laugh) So in politics this is nonsense, non-violence. It is nonsense, cowardism. In politics in sweet words you cannot get. There must be fight, arms. That is army. 'If you don't agree, then fist.' That is politics. There must be violence. Otherwise you cannot control. When there is educated good men, then you can argue. But when people are ruffians, there is no question of good..."
(Srila Prabhupada, Morning Walk, December 30th, 1973, Los Angeles)
"If I require, I'll take. So Gandhi discovered, and the discovery was there Surendranath Ban... That they're exploiting us, so noncooperate. They are ruling over us by our cooperation, so let us noncooperate.' But that is a foolish policy. Poverty-stricken country, how they can noncooperate? That was not successful, but this program, Subhash Bose's tit-for-tat, military, that was successful.

 

They're keeping our men as soldiers and police, and by their strength they're ruling over India. And Subhash Bose made a plan—the soldiers and police will noncooperate. They'll join his INA. And when they began to join Indian National Army, these intelligent Britishers could understand, 'Now it is no more possible. With whose cooperation, we shall kick?' Then they made a friendly settlement."
(Srila Prabhupada, Evening Darsana, February 15th, 1977, Mayapura)
"They want to do something. What happens? Gandhi, when he started nonviolence, 'Within one year' And he dragged for fifty years. Twenty years in Durban and thirty years in India. Could not do anything. If you say that Gandhi could not do anything, people will be angry. But see, study the whole history. What did he do? Did the Britishers care for Gandhi's nonviolent movement? Pat him. 'Let this rascal go on with his movement. We'll go on.' That was the disagreement with Subhash Bose. Subhash Bose said, 'Mahatmaji, they will never go by this nonviolence. You have to take to violence.' He said that 'I will never have independence, but I will not take it.' Therefore he left India. When he organized that INA and when the Britishers felt the (indistinct), 'Now the soldiers have joined,' all hopes lost. They did not give up India for Gandhi's nonviolence."
(Srila Prabhupada, Room Conversation, April 5th, 1977, Bombay)
"Gandhi tried twenty years to get little equal rights. The General Smuts refused. He was failure in South Africa. And then he decided that 'I shall drive these Europeans, Englishmen, from India.' He came. That also he could not do. Here also, for thirty years he struggled. He was failure, nonviolent. It is Subhash Bose's INA which drove away these Englishmen. You know that? That Indian Army, what is that, INA, Indian National Army? When he organized this National Army, then the Englishmen came to sense that 'Now we cannot rule over.' This rascal was going on, nonviolence..." (laughter)
(Srila Prabhupada, Room Conversation, August 8th, 1977, Vrndavana)
"So, this is foolishness. You become very bold enough, 'Now I shall cook without fire.' You are a rascal number one. Gandhi did it. Actually he could not drive away the Britishers by nonviolence, for thirty years, thirty-five years he struggled. When Subash Bose introduced violence, they were forced out. This is politics. Politics and nonviolence (incompatible). There is no history in the world that politics has been successful without violence, and he introduced this. So how much foolish he was, you can understand."
(Srila Prabhupada, Morning Walk, May 8th, 1975, Perth)
"Germany is little recouped, but England is finished. Therefore I say India got independence not due to Gandhi. It is due to Hitler. That is my opinion. I have got reason. The Hitler fighting with England made them smashed, so their political power became nil almost, and on this opportunity, Hitler helped Subash Chandra Bose, one of the leaders of India, to organize Indian National Army. This Indian National Army, when attacked, at least made a show of attack from Imphala(?), especially on Calcutta dropped bombs, and the whole Calcutta became vacant. Perhaps myself and a few others remained."
(Srila Prabhupada, Morning Walk , June 11th, 1976, Los Angeles)
"Almost daily. But it was meant for bombing the European quarters. So when the Britishers saw that 'Now this Subash Bose has organized I.N.A....' I.N.A. was organized by Subash Chandra Bose. Outside India, all the Indians, they contributed money, especially from Singapore. Singapore, Hong Kong, this side..., all the Indians, they contribute sufficiently. And he got men from the fighting Indians soldiers. The Britishers, they were fighting with Indian soldiers, with Germany and Japan and others. So the contract with Hitler and Subash Bose was this, that 'All the Indian soldiers which you arrest in the war, please give me them. Then I shall organize.' So the soldiers, when they understood they're being arrested—'We shall go to Indian side'—they voluntarily surrendered. So Hitler, all others, Hitler and Japan, Tojo, arrest them and give it to Subash Chandra Bose, and he was organizing in Singapore."
(Srila Prabhupada, Morning Walk, June 11th, 1976, Los Angeles)
"Yes. And Subash Bose was always against this nonviolent means. That is the difference of opinion with Gandhi. So he wanted to capture the whole power, and he captured, but Gandhi became so angry upon him that he did not attend the Congress when SubashBose was elected President. Then other lieutenants-Subash Bose also was Gandhi's student—so when others planned, requested that 'Gandhiji is not happy. You better resign.' So he resigned, and tactfully he went out of India."
(Srila Prabhupada, Morning Walk, December 25th, 1976, Bombay)
"Yes. No. They knew that 'We are not going. So long the nonviolence is there, we are safe.' They were occasionally calling Gandhi and patting him: 'Sir, why you are doing this? Let us compromise,' because he knew that 'So long nonviolence will continue, we are safe.' But Subash Bose's protest was that 'If you don't take to violence, then these people are never going.' That was the difference of opinion between Subash Bose and... So when he was taking the Congress in hand, Gandhi became so angry that Subash Bose, being elected President, Gandhi did not attend the Congress. So other workers, he requested Subash Bose that 'You resign. Otherwise Gandhi will not.'(?) So he resigned. He done right. And then he thought that 'Unless I go out of India, I cannot do anything.' Then he managed to go out of India, and Singapore, he... Indians with their help and Hitler's intervention, he organized this INA. And when the Britisher's saw that 'Now the soldiers are joining national movement, then we cannot rule over,' then they decided, 'Let us make some compromise, and as much possible, do harm. Divide this India, Pakistan and India, and go away.' This is fact."
(Srila Prabhupada, Room Conversation with Two Indian Guests, January 27th, 1977)
"So they decided that because without soldiers and police, how they can rule over? And that, when they saw the soldiers are now joining Subash Bose and they are planning to come to India from Imphal, so they saw, 'Now it is impossible.' They are politicians. They could understand. So therefore the conclusion is: It is not Gandhi's nonviolence. It is Subash Bose's INA which compelled them to go away."
(Srila Prabhupada, Room Conversation with Two Indian Guests, January 27th, 1977)
"No, nobody cares for this non... [break] That is not, that India has no ksatriya spirit. Very good ksatriya spirit. But it was not organized. That is the difference of opinion between Gandhi and Subash. He wanted to organize it."
(Srila Prabhupada, Room Conversation with Two Indian Guests, January 27th, 1977)
"None. So that twenty years, failure, and here also he started that nonviolence-thirty years. In 1917 he came here from Africa, and the nonviolent, noncooperation... Actually the Hitler's war in 1947 helped India to become independent, the Hitler's cooperation withSubash Bose, INA. When he organized the soldiers, then Britishers thought, 'No more chance.' Then they left India. Not for the nonviolence. These are artificial things, in politics nonviolence."
(Srila Prabhupada, Evening Darsana, February 24th, 1977, Mayapura)
"No, it is a fact. When Subhas Bapu... He was always pleading, 'Gandhiji, these people are not to go by your nonviolence, and we have to take to violence.' Gandhi would say, 'I will not fight. Sva-rajya.' Then Subash went outside India. Somehow or other, he organized. And when the Britishers saw that 'The military force, they are joining national movement. Now it is no hope...' Because the Gurkhas and the Sikhs and other military races, they were cooperating with the Britishers, therefore they were maintaining. They could not bring soldiers from their country. And when they saw, 'The soldiers are joining Subhas,' they left. 'Now independence.' This is a fact."
(Srila Prabhupada, Meeting with Mr. Dwivedi, April 23rd, 1977, Bombay)