Ali-PADA and the Forty Thieves are a CIA DIVIDE AND CONQUER FRONT !!
1 They say that all other pure devotees are bogus.
2 They say we are supposed to chant 64 rounds.
3 They try to set themselves up as a new hierarchy of bogus bosses.
4 They say no diksha is necessary.
1. not true, ridiculous. but pada brains are too small to accomodate the divergence of instructions, they are inventing something as they cannot handle reality
2. its 16, otherwise 24 hours a day. sankirtan is more important than 64 rounds wasting time. this is bogus cheating of the worst kind.
3. they want to be your gooroo, bogus. Creeps like Puranjana, who was rejected as a sahajiya by Srila Prahupada himself, are pushing these lies.
4. Srila Prabhupada said diksha was necessary, warned not to expect honorary degrees, and travelled around the world conducting formal initiation ceremonies. I guess he didnt follow his own advice, right? offensive bastards.
These PADA-ite lies are clearly intentionally designed to stop the spread of the sankirtana movement, cause divisions, and thus we are divided and conquered. Anyone stupid enough to follow these jerks and sahajiya punks kindly defriend me and go to hell where you are all going.
1. Srila Prabhupada said that Srila Sridhara Maharajah was his siksha Guru. He also invited Narayana Swami and others to visit and told the devotees to accept guidance from him on many matters. These are historical facts; no amount of out-of-time-and-context quotes from the PADA cheaters can deny the actual history.
2. 16 rounds; BY HIS DIVINE GRACE A. C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPADA; My advice to you under the circumstances is that at least for one hour you must all go to have sankirtana outside on the streets or in the park. That is your life and soul, first business. The next business is completing the chanting of 16 rounds every day. The next business is your editing. And if you find extra time then you can attend the temple ceremonies. Otherwise you can stop these activities. But outdoor kirtana, your editing work, and chanting of 16 rounds must be done. Outdoor kirtana must be done, even at the cost of suspending all editorial work. That is your first and foremost business. Temple worship is not so important. If need be, the whole temple can be locked. But the outdoor kirtana cannot be stopped. (Letter to Rayarama, 17 May 1969)
In this age,it is more important to create devotees then to construct temples. Hawaii,7,1969 Srila Prabhupada
SRILA PRABHUPADA "I have no objection if the grihastas live outside and earn money, but I do not want them to leave. The strict temple procedure is only for those who live in the temple. Grihastas should live outside, and they cannot follow strictly everything, but why they should give up altogether their devotional procedures? So many big stalwart devotees are leaving, why is this?" Prabhupada's letter to Karandhara, London, 14 July, 1972
3. diksha; "Unless one is initiated by a bonafide spiritual master, ALL his devotional activities are USELESS. A person who is not properly initiated can again descent into the animal specie." [Madhya Lila 15 .
"One should take initiation from a bonafide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is AUTHORIZED by his predecessor spiritual master. This is called dikshan-vidhana. [SB 4.8.54]
"A siksa guru [instructing guru or priest] who instructs against the instructions of the spiritual master he is not a siksa guru. He is a demon! Sometimes the diksa guru [initiating guru] is not present always. Therefore one can take learning, instructions from an advanced devotee. That is called siksa-guru. But siksa-guru does not mean he is speaking something against the teachings of the diksa-guru. He is not a siksa-guru. He is a rascal. Because that is offense. Guru avjna, defying the authority of guru. This is the first offense. So, one who is offensive, how can he make advance in chanting? He cannot make. Then everything is finished, in the beginning!" [Bg. 17:1-3, 07-4-74, Hawaii]
"Guru cannot be self-made. No. There is NO such single instance throughout the whole vedic literature. And nowadays, so many rascals they are becoming guru without any authority. That is NOT guru. You MUST be authorized!" [Bg. 4.2]
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