Celibacy is held as the highest ideal, when in actuality, family life is it

[Tamohara dasa ADMIN.]

Patricia Therese Wolff-Keaton; Parvati dd, acbssp, Bh.S.; Yes, a lot of it IS due to the fake sannyasis. Celibacy is held as the highest ideal, when in actuality, family life is it. Celibacy was for when we get old, so old we never think of sex (is there such an age?).

You have a lot of double-talking when it comes to sex and KC. Women are blamed for making brahmacaries "fall-down". Brahmacarya is only supposed to last til marriage, when the bramacari becomes a grhastha. Family life is demonized in GBC KC because parents would rather raise their family than deal with GBC bullshit such as (Get out and make us money!!!!).

Not to mention how many GBC (and ex-GBC) are pedophiles. If parents are attentive, how could they be allowed to prey upon the children. It is one of those "use your brains Krishna gave you" kinds of things, but people don't for fear of being ostracized.

Question, from dear Noreen Briddigkeit Quinn ; What does GBC stand for please and KC ? Thank you

Patricia Therese Wolff-Keaton ; Governing Body Commision (Committee nowadays?) and Krishna Consciousness.

Noreen Briddigkeit Quinn ; Thanks for that - now I can understand better. The whole set-up doesnt seem much different that what we have experienced in the Catholic Church (clergy abuse of children)

[Tamohara dasa ADMIN.]

I ask you; how many sannyasis are there in Goloka Vrndavana? Yes, everyone, but in pastime actuality...? No one is a sannyasi in Goloka Vrndavana. All have their families. Therefore, it is a temporary and artifical designation. The real ashrama of most living enitities is Grhasta Ashrama. Vanaprasthas, Sannyasis; not so much...

[Tamohara dasa ADMIN.]

Letetr from Padmapani Prabhu;  The world is going mad out there, have you noticed?  We're all living in a sinking boat.

 

I have $1.03 in the bank.  No food.  No car.  No credit card.  No backup.  Failing health.  I'm doomed.  Who cares about a sick old man with no money?

 

Can you and Vicky devi not get together and try it out?  Long distant relationships are full of endless pain and yearning.  Very hard on the heart.

 

The big mistake the movement made was to condemn women and married life.  It screwed us all up.  Now we're in old age and we want companionship and we can't have it.  So most of us are going to die alone and lonely.  It's crazy.  What a world.

 

Whatever happens, I always wish you the best.  Perhaps life will be better next time around.  But maybe we should choose another planet because this one is not only on the fast track to hell, but it already is hell.

 

Please give Kay my best wishes.  Tell her that I think she's wonderful and am grateful that she was so kind to my mother.  Rita loved her and considered Kay her very best friend ever.  God bless her.

 

Take care and best of luck.   Hare Krsna.

[Tamohara dasa ADMIN.]

A wonderful reply, Mahesh Prabhu. Thanks for that. Excellent references, i was thinking they would be perfect to read at a gathering when solace and inspiration was needed.  The positive message is there and very good one, re rare opportunity for special service. I am going to nick-name you dearly as Sastra-Ji! ~(>,' )  Sincerely, very clear even lucid, perfect.

A lot of choice material is stowed away in these spi files, anyone can borrow them and post front page or anywhere they wish, there is no restriction, except of course, no PADA orgnization people allowed. haha.

PrabhuJi Padmapani has managed an online site for many years now, Prabhupada Connection. He also writes many letters, poetry, and historical articles. He's currently on Vancouver Island, B.C., Canada.

I will let you know as I hear further news from our Godbrother re his health and station.

Many devotees find themselves in similar circumstances due to many years spent in Iskcon when young, and thus with no work skills, references, nor degrees etc. after Srila Prabhupada was martyred and we were thrown out by the poisoner sampradaya.