Dr. Singh: Are there many Indian-born disciples abroad, or are they mainly Western disciples?

Dr. Singh: Are there many Indian-born disciples abroad, or are they mainly Western disciples?

Prabhupāda: No, there are many Indians.
Mālatī: In England there are many. They go now. They are from Muslim families and they are from...
Prabhupāda: The Indians take it lightly. They say, "Oh, Kṛṣṇa. But we have a life outside."
Dr. Singh: That is the... You're quite right, that is what the...
Prabhupāda: They have learned everything.
Dr. Singh: Really? Do they know anything about Kṛṣṇa or not?
Prabhupāda: Sab janta Lawrence. In Bengal there is called sab janta Lawrence. There was Mr. Lawrence...
Dr. Singh: [laughs] Sab janta Lawrence
Prabhupāda: So our Indian people are sab janta Lawrence.
Dr. Singh: [still laughing] That is true. Here everybody is brought up with Hare Kṛṣṇa [Hindi]. That must be one of the reasons, actually, why [indistinct] Europe.
Śyāmasundara: They take us very lightly
Type: Conversation
Date: Nov. 25, 1971
Location: Delhi
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Prabhupāda: I said that our government should give me facility for [indistinct].
Dr. Singh: I know him very well. He's a very good friend of mine, Swami Raghunatha.
Prabhupāda: So why not tell what I have done? What fault I have?
Dr. Singh: Except that he keeps going round and round, and he lives in India.
Prabhupāda: Does he move better than me or less?
Dr. Singh: Much less, but he comes back to India all the time; he's based in India.
Prabhupāda: Because he has no followers. [laughter] Nobody will give him place. I can stay anywhere. I have got so many houses.
Mālatī: You may also come and stay in any of our houses.
Prabhupāda: So these things are to be considered. What contribution he can give? And he is given all certificates, and I am not certified?
Dr. Singh: The government of India has not in any way helped this movement, has it?
Prabhupāda: Not a single farthing. Why this...
Śyāmasundara: In fact, they try in many ways to stop it, retard our progress.
Prabhupāda: Rather, they are always after me, "Oh, why you are here? Go away, go away."
Dr. Singh: Do they say that?
Prabhupāda: Yes. I do not know, but that is the minor point. Immediately that [indistinct] said... What is that? "No foreigner can stay there"?
Śyāmasundara: In Nadia.
Prabhupāda: Nadia. I do not know whether it is [indistinct]. So we are being indirectly disturbed.
Dr. Singh: That must be because there's more trouble there, and the foreigners [indistinct].
Prabhupāda: But why must they... The government should know what I am doing. Whole world is appreciating, except my government. They are so unfortunate.
Dr. Singh: It is always the home is the last one always. You know what happens with prophets. [laughs] They are always respected more abroad.
Mālatī: But the point is, we are..., he is taking from this country the greatest thing and giving. It is not like he is exploiting in some materialistic effort. Rather, he is giving the greatest thing from this country.
Prabhupāda: Recently one paper has remarked that "Such an important man is going unnoticed." They remarked like that.
Dr. Singh: Here?
Prabhupāda: No. Where it is?
Mālatī: Boston.
Prabhupāda: Boston. Also in Buffalo.
Mālatī: Buffalo, yes.
Śyāmasundara: He was speaking in reference to the Pope. The Pope didn't acknowledge your letter to him.
Dr. Singh: Did it or did?
Śyāmasundara: Did not.
Dr. Singh: His loss. When we have Kṛṣṇa, who needs the Pope? [laughs
Type: Conversation
Date: Nov. 25, 1971
Location: Delhi
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