Reporter (8): Swamiji, I would like to know, that I feel that your society, the Hare Kṛṣṇa consciousness society, has a very, very stable economy and that it is self-sufficient in itself. Is that so?
Hṛdayānanda: Speak a little louder.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Is the Hare Kṛṣṇa society self-sufficient, does it have a.... He understands that our society has a very stable economy. Is it self-sufficient, our own Hare Kṛṣṇa society?
Prabhupāda: So don't you think that we are self-sufficient? We are feeding at least ten thousand devotees daily, but we have no fixed income.
Reporter (8): They don't have any fixed income.
Prabhupāda: No. None of us have any fixed income, but we are traveling all over the world, New York, London, Calcutta. It is just like going from this quarter to that quarter. Our men are moving like that. Immediately coming, one dozen men from Germany, one dozen from London, and immediately going. We are paying so much money to the airplanes, and we have got so many centers. So how it is going on? On Kṛṣṇa's grace. We depend on Kṛṣṇa. Our income, daily collection, is not less than one lakh of rupees, and we are spending everything.
Reporter (8): One lakh daily.
Prabhupāda: That is minimum. Sometimes we collect five lakhs daily.
Reporter (5): What is the way you go about collecting money?
Prabhupāda: That book-selling.
Reporter (8): Only, books are the only source of your...
Prabhupāda: That's it. This question was raised in the Parliament, that "Hare Kṛṣṇa people, they are fabulously rich. Where they get their money?" And the Parliament answer was "They get their money by selling literature."
Reporter (8): That means the devotees do not contribute to the...
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. Not the devotees purchase. They publish. Those who are intelligent public, they purchase.
Reporter (8): But do the devotees contribute in any way?
Prabhupāda: Yes. They are contributing their life. We don't get any such life-sacrificing Indians. These educated boys, rich men's son, they have sacrificed everything for me. And where is Indian?
Reporter (8): Swamiji, do you have certain farms also in America, gośālā?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Not only one, many.
Reporter (8): What else do you have over there besides gurukula schools and things?
Prabhupāda: We produce our own milk. In New Vrindaban we are producing.... You are Nava Bharata Times? You are, any of you, Nava Bharata Times? Is there any representative, Nava...? No. Your representative went to New Vrindaban, and he published in the November 1974, I think.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, '74.
Prabhupāda: Yes, they published one big article, Nava Bharata Time, and the heading was, (Hindi). This was the heading. Actually they gave the photograph of our Deity and activities, everything. You can find out November issue of Nava Bharata in 1974.
Reporter (2): But you've virtually given up India as a dead loss, Swamiji.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Reporter (2): You've given up India as a dead loss, isn't it, in the sense...
Prabhupāda: Dead loss? Dead loss.... But the leaders are dead loss. Misleaders. They have given up their own culture, and they are trying to imitate others.
Reporter (8): Swamiji, when there was discussion in Parliament about the fabulous money that the movement has, society has, then who provided the answers?
Prabhupāda: The Home Member.
Reporter (8): The Minister.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: We have a copy of this in Bombay, the question number and.... It was about two, three years ago.
Reporter (8): They must have done intensive research
Prabhupāda: The other member, they raised the question. They brought the charges that the Americans are CIA. What is that, CIA or not? What is?
Hṛdayānanda: Yes. CIA.
Prabhupāda: The CIA have become Vaiṣṇava and given up meat-eating and dancing with me, and they have no other means. (laughter) Just see how foolish question it is. The CIA men have come to me for inquiry. This question, rascal questions, are put. Such unfortunate insanity is prevailing in India. (laughter) The American CIA, they have come to me. Just see.
Reporter (8): Swamiji, would you print that it is legitimate for the government to say that certain undesirable...
Prabhupāda: Don't bring in government now. It is emergency. (laughter) Put ordinary question. Don't bring in government.
Reporter (8): Have you been troubled by any undesirable elements?
Prabhupāda: No, no. We are clean. Why shall we be...? But if you want to put us in trouble, you can do. We are preaching. Our signboard is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Why do you misunderstand? And we are preaching Bhagavad-gītā as it is. You have got our book. Still if you misunderstand, that is our misfortune. What can I do?
Reporter (5): Thank you very much indeed, Swamiji.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Would you like to have a look at some of our books?
Hari-śauri: We have some refreshments also if you want. (end)K
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"Prabhupāda: The CIA have become Vaiṣṇava and given up meat-eating and dancing with me, and they have no other means. (laughter) Just see how foolish question it is. The CIA men have come to me for inquiry. This question, rascal questions, are put. Such unfortunate insanity is prevailing in India. (laughter) The American CIA, they have come to me. Just see.
Reporter (8): Swamiji, would you print that it is legitimate for the government to say that certain undesirable...
Prabhupāda: Don't bring in government now. It is emergency. (laughter) Put ordinary question. Don't bring in government.
Reporter (8): Have you been troubled by any undesirable elements?
Prabhupāda: No, no. We are clean. Why shall we be...? But if you want to put us in trouble, you can do. We are preaching. Our signboard is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Why do you misunderstand? And we are preaching Bhagavad-gītā as it is. You have got our book. Still if you misunderstand, that is our misfortune. What can I do?"
This is not the main point of the article presented, but is interesting history. Already at that time, sounds like 74 ish?, the govt of India suspected CIA involvements. Locals told crazy tales, about nuclear weapons hidden at Mayapura! How ridiculous propaganda. In Canada, we had more than one police plant try to come live with us, but they did not last more than a few weeks.
But meanwhile, Srila Prabhupada told us that the govt will try to kill him, and us, that the Great Sinister movement had infiltrated our society, and later, well we all know the history. Adi kesava was a cia/illuminati dupe agent, as is now Radhanatha et al. The CIA has indeed taken over Iskcon, and controls it in a compartmentalized fashion, such that most of the devotees do not realize they have been duped by demons. PADA, IRM, et al also act as if compartmentalized and possibly funded CIA agents, with a mission to confuse, divide, and conquer the ritviks.