Palaka Dasa, it was my assumption only that Rupanuga was a BBT trustee. I do not know whether he was or not. So if I am wrong my hearty apology. That is one thing!

Next it was in 1972 yes it was 1972 when Bali Mardan picked me up at Tiffany Place ISKCON Press, in his car, and told me to get in and sit in the back as he was going to pick up Sankirtan devottees. He knew I was austere and so he wanted to know my opinion on Srila Prabhupada's decision that all GBC members take sannyas and thus retain their post.

My not much appreciated, forthcoming and immediate answer was, "I think it is a very good idea - the GBC they should be the most austere." So if Karandhara was GBC maybe he did not take sannyas, although awarded by the asking. I saw him in white in May 1973. Again as I had stated it may have been a revised book that contained this 8th canto purport as I had mentioned - as in ISKCON Press in Los Angeles every time their was a second press run - all big books had been revised - I have books with the title pages proving this. Yes I am ignorant and make mistakes but not a willful liar. Should I thus sinfully apologize, in ignorant cognitive dissonance?

I have suffered long and hard from chronic sciatica and upon occasion I have discovered that I read things that are not on the page - as the brain fills in when there is a black out due to pain or whatever. But miraculously upon investigation I find that my brain-filling-in had been a type of clairvoyance. That may have happened but I am simply reporting my actual experience with reading.

Now has Rupanuga not written that later he would explain about the 1974 revisions of NOD and TLC? There is no explanation of a valid reason for these revision to have taken place - nor for them to be printed as the originals which they certainly are not. And to claim revision were made by Hayagriva is next to worshipping Satan. Hayagriva never engaged in liar, liar pants on fire, cheating revisions. Weak is one thing - being a Kali Chela is another. Should I apologize?

Now in the fullest version of the June 22nd 1977 Rascal Editors Talk - Srila Prabhupada had singled out both Ramesvara and Radhaballaba and even implied that Satsavupa even if told to go back to the first printed versions would not listen.

" Who will listen - all rascals!" Srila Prabhupada had said.

"Radhaballaba the biggest rascal and Ramesvara he is supporting them all"

Now Palaka Dasa many truthful and reasonable things I have said and you delete them all --- along with my far less numerous - whatever mistakes, or possible mistakes. Thus many truthful things were by your good self deleted - incurring no danger to yourself - and also no deep appreciation by disciplic succession either.

So Palaka Dasa integrity is demigod approved and not according to an ill informed consensus reality.

So to bully, bully anyone into a confession of wrongs not actually committed is not brahminical.

But to hold this comment is not demoniac - as deletion and then commenting upon that which is a - now deleted comment --------------------------- is a little less than honest ( to put it mildly.

Now as to the details of the so-CALLED gopi-bhava club - what I have written -- was as accurate as the organizer of that laudable club had told - had commented about it explaining the actual truth and exactly as I had presented it. No apology needed here!

So to ingeniously blanket me as a liar - is not a little sinful! As Srila Prabhupada has written in B. G. 16 . 1 - 3 - purport. - original McMillian edition no longer in print.

"Freedom from faultfinding means to excuse the minor offenses and short comings of others; but to call an honest man a liar is a serious sin."

So Rupanuga has indeed read at one time the original versions of Sri Ishopanishad, The Teachings Of Lord Chaitanya and The Nectar of Devotion and if he, come hell or high water chooses not to lie about the revisions ----- but rather admits that they have been not too ceremoniously ushered out of print - than his vaishnava association is my gain, but otherwise only a mockery!

I am not expecting too much from you Palaka Dasa, but I do happen to know that Srila Prabhupada and his BFF Lord Krishna would be very please if you surprise me.

"Among those who seek victory I am morality." B. G. 10 . 38.

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