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Christopher Grimmette

Most of you must of seen this picture of the 11 conditioned souls pretending to be gurus tormenting a picture of Srila Prabhupad our true spiritual master. The destruction of "ISKCON" started with these 11 poisonous vipers.

It was clearly a mistake letting these false gurus languish in their egotistical ways. Loving the devotion of the misguided devotees. Yes it makes one sick.

Now here is the point. A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada did not make mistakes. So all you "cult of the guru" lovers who state he ordered these eleven, be elevated to Guru status are grotesquely wrong. You drink from the septic feet of imposters.

Srila Prabhupad looked at them and knew the truth. None of them were suitable. Therefore he proposed a "ritvik" system (priestly instructers) and stated that this was his wish. It was the wish of a spiritual master so high above any of us and they ignored it.

In the decades that have followed

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Once again let us repeat the words of the Acharyas. Are Iskcon gurus even kanistha since the equivalent of Kanistha in Varnasrama is the perfect Brahmana? Are they or we perfect brahmanas to qualify as kanistha adhikary?

Rajen Babu: Isn’t the kanistha-adhikari qualified to give initiation into the mantra?

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati: Where is the kanishtha-adhikari coming from? Who gave him the adhikara? A kanishtha-adhikari can never become a guru.

Rajen Babu: Can a madhyama-adhikari give diksa?

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati: HE CAN ONLY PERFORM THE INITIAL DUTIES OF DIKSA. It is the uttama-adhikari maha-bhagavata Vaisnava who is actually the diksa-guru. There are two types of Vaisnavas – the ragatmika and the raganuga. Those who are from the eternal realm offer service to Sri Krsna directly. These ragatmikas serve Sri Varshabhanavi and Her direct expansions. Those who perform direct service to the ragatmikas and take shelter in them through

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"There is no worse association in the whole world than that of a dharmadvdji. One should rather associate with sense enjoyers. Being deceitful, the dharmadvdjis take on the appearance of devotees with a desire to cheat everyone, and to fulfill their crooked desires, they cheat the foolish by helping them in their rascaldom. Some of the dharmadvdjis become gurus and others become disciples, and by trickery, they accumulate wealth, women, false prestige, and material assets. If one gives up the association of crooked hypocrites, one can honestly engage in devotional service."

(Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Sajjana-tosani)

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Krishnakant (IRM): How the guru hoax works

Krishnakant (IRM): How the guru hoax works

courtesy Prabhupadanuga News

 

Back To Prabhupada., Issue 29: Though The Great Guru Hoax is indeed a hoax of monumental proportions, we will show that it is executed via a technique that is so transparent and simple, that even an 8 year old child would not fall for it. Yet, unfortunately, it seems that many have fallen for the proposals of the acting GBC.

ISKCON pre 1978
The situation in ISKCON, whilst Srila Prabhupada was physically present, was as follows:
a) As a result of reading Srila Prabhupada’s books, a devotee would join the movement. He would get all his knowledge from Srila Prabhupada, follow all of Srila Prabhupada’s disciplines and rules, and serve Srila Prabhupada by following the instructions Srila Prabhupada gave, and then get delivered spiritually by Srila Prabhupada.
 
b) Senior devotees, such as GBCs, temple presidents and ritviks, would simply help bring such persons to Srila Prabhupada’s lotus feet, by training them, initiati

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More of Mom's Good Advice

May 08,'09 This is the latest reaction of my 84 year-old mother, who has been following ISKCON, initially as a vitally interested outsider, since I joined in the early years. She now worships Gopal, and follows the four regs: "Are they stupid, or what? The whole thing is ridiculous! Prabhupada started the movement, he is the holy man. Now they want to change his books, change his arrangements? What if Jesus' disciples started saying that they were as good as Jesus? It would be unacceptable, ridiculous. Nobody will believe them. People are not going to buy this. They (GBC, etc.) MUST be stupid!" This is interesting, as it gives us a little perspective into how the citizens of the world will react to Srila Prabhupada being relegated to a background position, as opposed to his directions to approach him, the bona fide Spiritual Master, as Founder-Acarya of ISKCON and savior of the world's fallen. Clearly, people will not want to accept a bunch of wannabes when they can have a recognized
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