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Advaita Discussion Group; If jivas in maya ie the expanded energies of the perfect origin, have a tendency to Name and Form, then the originating source must also. sarva karana karanam; I am the original cause, says Govinda. Govinda has a Form and talks, He is not an empty room. Why build a room even, if it is to be empty in its perfect state? Negation of the purposes of said room is a type of voidism and madness unnatural to spiritual Self, which is full of sat chit ananda, having blissful form and activities of perfection. Annihilating perception may stop material involvements, but there is no positive involvement on the eternal plane of blissful activity and exchange.

For conditioned souls to discuss maya is like people in handcuffs discussing freedom. One is obliged to approach a free unbound or higher perfect source of information, such as Bhagavada Gita As It Is, in order to get right knowledge upon which to make right decisions. A bound man cannot readily untie another. If one

Prabhupada: We Vaiṣṇavas do not say that there is no need of fighting. We never say. When there is need of fighting we must fight. Rather, somebody in New York, some Goldsmith, he was that, 'Why Krishna is advising Arjuna to fight, to become violent?'
So somebody protests like that. But there is no meaning of protesting against the action of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is our view. So we Vaiṣṇavas, we are chanting.
It does not mean that when there is need of fighting with avaiṣṇava (non-vaishnava) we shall lack in strength. We can fight. One gentleman inquired from me that 'Vaiṣṇavism makes one dull. He cannot act.' And, 'No. You have not seen a Vaiṣṇava.' In the two fightings, great fighting, the Rāmāyaṇa and Mahābhārata, the hero was Hanuman and Arjuna, and they fought.
Guest: They fought.
Prabhupada: Yes. And who can be better Vaiṣṇava than them?
Guest: Nobody.
Prabhupada: So Vaiṣṇava does not mean he is dull. No.
Guest: No, that is well proved. If there is need...
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“Yes, we must set up our society as a school as best we can—I have already sent you letter. Please formulate the whole curriculum because we have to immediately submit to the Draft department and if this is accepted that will be great gain for our society. “Bhakti-sastri” is awarded after extensive study of Bhagavad-gita, Easy Journey, and Nectar of Devotion. “Bhakti-vaibhava” is awarded after study of Vedanta-sutra and Srimad-Bhagavatam on a preliminary basis; and “Bhaktivedanta” the highest title, is awarded after extensive study of Caitanya-caritamrta.” (Letter to Brahmananda, Hawaii, March 23, 1969)

Prabhupāda: (laughs) Krodha bhakta-dveṣi-jane. That is Narottama Ṭhākura's instruction. You must be very angry, those who are against God and devotee, very angry. Utilize your anger for them. Krodha bhakta-dveṣi-jane. That anger is service. Kṛṣṇa-sebā kāmārpaṇe. For Kṛṣṇa's service one should be mad. Kāma-krodha should be given up, but a bhakta does not give up. Utilize it. A bhakta should be very much for kamut(?) serving Kṛṣṇa. And he must utilize his anger for the bhakta-dveṣi, those who are not devotee.