Iskcon gurus declare they're not qualified as Gurus in 1981-Iskcon World Magazine June 1981 -

Posted by Tamohara dasa ADMIN. on February 28, 2021 at 11:05

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Iskcon gurus declare they're not qualified as Gurus in 1981-Iskcon World Magazine June 1981 -

"The present acaryas expressed that although they are supposed to be

the senior most Vaisnavas of the movement, they are still learning about their responsibilities as gurus."

Hare Krsna. All glories to His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. All glories to all Vaisnavas.

The following article published in June 1981 in the Iskcon's World Magazine shows that the self appointed Gurus themselves declared that they were "still learning their responsibilities as Gurus".

It is also admitted by Satsvarupa Das Goswami here where he says the ISKCON gurus are imitators and fake Gurus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz37qsyc8-M

Now, isn't a Guru supposed to be on the topmost platform of devotional service and an eternally liberated soul(nitya-siddha)? If the Gurus themselv

Baba Ram Dass, spiritual guru and LSD pioneer, dies at 88

Posted by Tamohara dasa ADMIN. on December 23, 2019 at 8:43

Baba Ram Dass, spiritual guru and LSD pioneer, dies at 88

FILE - In this Oct. 21, 1998 file photo, Ram Dass, best known for the 1971 bestseller "Be Here Now," smiles during an interview at his San Anselmo, Calif., home. The 1960s counterculture spiritual leader and early LSD proponent died, Sunday, Dec. 22, 2019 at his home in Maui, Hawaii. He was 88. (AP Photo/Susan Ragan, File)

HONOLULU (AP) — Baba Ram Dass, the 1960s counterculture spiritual leader who experimented with LSD and traveled to India to find enlightenment, returning to share it with Americans, has died. He was 88.

Dass’ foundation, Love Serve Remember, announced late Sunday that the author and spiritual leader died peacefully at his home earlier in the day. No cause of death was given.

He had suffered a severe stroke in 1997 that left him paralyzed on the right side and, for a time, unable to speak. More recently, he underwent hip surgery after he was injured in a fall in November 2008, according to his website.

Guru, Krsna; the combo punch

Posted by Tamohara dasa ADMIN. on September 5, 2017 at 15:37

Dhira Madhava Das shared Pooja Sharma's post.

ei rupe brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva
guru-kripa-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija
(CC Madhya 19.151)

By serving both the spiritual master and Krsna he gets the seed of devotional service (bhakti-lata-bija), and if he sows the seed within his heart and waters it by hearing and chanting, it grows into a luxuriant bhakti-lata, or bhakti creeper.
SB 4.22.23,

While the bhakti creeper is growing, the devotee must protect it by fencing it all around. The neophyte devotee must be protected by being surrounded by pure devotees. In this way he will not give the maddened elephant a chance to uproot his bhakti creeper.
CC Madhya 19.157,

One can get the seed of the plant or creeper of bhakti, how? Guru-kripa-krpa. By the mercy of guru and by the mercy of Krsna, not that krsna-krpa. First guru-krpa, then kripa-krpa.
Lecture on SB 1.15.27 -- New York, March 6, 1975

The bhakti-lata, the creeper of bhakti, is growing, but it will go on g

Caitanya Priya Das 8.MEANING OF “ON MY ORDER, Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā, BE ACTUALLY GURU, BUT BY MY ORDER.”

Posted by Tamohara dasa ADMIN. on February 11, 2017 at 14:29

Caitanya Priya Das shared his post.

Caitanya Priya Das

8.MEANING OF “ON MY ORDER, Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā, BE ACTUALLY GURU, BUT BY MY ORDER.”

GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada - May 28, 1977, Vrndavana.

Srila Prabhupada after enunciating the first formality which refers to the period in which the guru is present,in the presence of the spiritual master, now he states the second formality which refers to the period during which the guru is no longer present.

Satsvarupa's question refers to this period of time, “AT THAT TIME WHEN you're no longer with us.”

During this second period, the etiquette, the formality, the law of disciplic succession says that:

“ON MY ORDER,
Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā ,
be ACTUALLY guru, BUT BY MY ORDER.”

“BUT by my order “ means that THE ONLY CAUSE by which one actually becomes guru is “my order, by my order, on my order”.

This is the requisite or inevitable condition to become actually guru: “by my order, on my order.”

One becomes guru “but by my order”:

1.O

The Meaning of Perfect, by His Divine Grace

Posted by Tamohara dasa ADMIN. on August 10, 2015 at 9:00

Courtesy Ines Naradic, ie Naradakunda devi dasi; Meaning of Perfect

Prabhupada: Yes. Acarya is explained, bhakti-samsanah: “One who’s preaching the cult of devotional service, he’s acarya.” Then why should you find any discrepancy?
Jayadvaita: Because we see … For instance, sometimes the acarya may seem to forget something or not to know something, so from our point of view, if someone has forgotten, that is an imperfection.
Prabhupada: Then you do not understand. Acarya is not God, omniscient. He is servant of God. His business is to preach bhakti cult. That is acarya.
Jayadvaita: And that is the perfection.
Prabhupada: That is the perfection. Hare Krsna.
Jayadvaita: So we have a misunderstanding about what perfection is?
Prabhupada: Yes. Perfection is here, how he is preaching bhakti cult. That’s all.
Satsvarupa: Prabhupada, in one purport in the Bhagavad-gita, you write that a disciple of a bona fide spiritual master is supposed to know everything.
Prabhupada: Yes, if he follows th

THIS IS CALLED PARAMPARA SYSTEM ....Srila Prabhupada December 10, 1976

Posted by Tamohara dasa ADMIN. on October 1, 2015 at 12:23

THIS IS CALLED PARAMPARA SYSTEM ....Srila Prabhupada December 10, 1976

"You are receiving through his servant. And in future the same knowledge will go to your students. This is called paramparā system. Evaṁ paramparā prāp… It is not that you have become a student and you’ll remain student. No. One day you shall become also guru and make more students, more students, more. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s mission, not that perpetually… Yes, one should remain perpetually a student, but he has to act as guru. That is t...he mission of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. It is not that because I am acting as guru, I am no longer student. No, I am still student. Caitanya Mahāprabhu taught us this instruction that we shall always remain a foolish student before our Guru Mahārāja. That is the Vedic culture. I may be very big man, but still, I should remain a foolish student to my guru. That is the qualification. Guru more mūrkha dekhi’ karila śāśana. We should be always prepared to be controlled by the guru.

If a devotee accepts Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu as the universal guru and Lord Jagannātha as the Supreme Personality of Godhead Kṛṣṇa, he is benefited by the combined mercy of Kṛṣṇa and guru.

Posted by Tamohara dasa ADMIN. on July 23, 2014 at 17:00

Glories of the holy Names, part 1 : an applicable association with Divine Logos.

Posted by Tamohara dasa ADMIN. on January 21, 2013 at 21:30

All glories to the Sri Krsna sankirtana, the singing and chanting of the Names of Krsna, which cleanses the heart of all things impure, and lets the white lotus of good fortune grow and shine in the heart of the participants!

( Sri Siksastakam of Lord Caitanya, verse 1)

Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu preached widely and practically demonstrated to all the power of the process of sankirtana, proving that the Lord Himself Is His holy Names.

If someone somehow says Hare Krsna!, in the mind, or aloud, and even concentrates the mind upon that, then she or he will absorb Love-nectar and soon become drunk with spiritual pleasure! They will start to recognize Krsna in all things around them, and in the end, will return to eternal blissful self-fulfilling Goloka, the para vyoma, or spiritual sky.

The world is astonished to see this! Never before has such perfect mercy been seen, such a perfect avatara of All-Loving Godhead Sri Krsna as our Lords Caitanya and Nityananda

The holy Name o

The Liberated Soul, talks with Srila Prabhupada, courtesy Suresh Anand Prabhu

Posted by Welcome on March 19, 2012 at 2:30

The Liberated Soul

Srila Prabhupäda: Our point is that if you do not get knowledge from liberated person, that knowledge is useless. That is cheating. [break] It is very easy. Just like a child. If he takes your direction, he liberated, and if he acts according to his childish nature, then he's conditioned. If you take Kåñëa's instruction, then you are liberated. If you manufacture your own idea, then you are conditioned. Two things. Child is not actually liberated. He is child. But because he takes blindly the direction of the father, he's liberated. That is mäm eva ye prapadyante. Anyone who has surrendered to Kåñëa and strictly follows what Kåñëa says, then he is liberated. Otherwise not. If he manufactures idea, then he's conditioned.
Dr. Patel: It is what? Sarva-dharmän parityajya [Bg. 18.66]?
Prabhupäda: Yes, and it is very easy: "Henceforward I shall simply follow what Kåñëa says." That's all. You become liberated immediately. It is one minute's task, simply to decide that "No

Corroborating Krsna dasa's Concerns

Posted by Welcome on October 21, 2009 at 15:00

It takes courage and the highest order of compassion to stand against the darkness. But Krsna is a fire which burns in the heart and minds of men, Who drives them to attempt the impossible, to stand even as one man against an empire, for the sake of an ideal. Krsna dasa has revealed concerns about the quality of the activities of Bhatkimarg Swami, long time devotee within ISKCON and GBC/authorized guru. I recall 1973, at the Toronto temple on Gerrard Street. Srila Prabhupada had a three-story house. Many wonderful devotees were residing there for the sake of our sankirtana services for Srila Prabhupada. As a new but sincere and gentle-natured lad, Bhatimarga was in charge of the new bhaktas, more or less, we being Ghosh Thakura Prabhu and I. He would read Nectar of Devotion with us for 1/2 an hour, and we would spend a few hours almost every day chanting and/or trying to collect some laxmi for incense and magazines, out on the famous circus of man's folly known as Yonge Street. Othe

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Iskcon gurus declare they're not qualified as Gurus in 1981-Iskcon World Magazine June 1981 -

Baba Ram Dass, spiritual guru and LSD pioneer, dies at 88

Baba Ram Dass, spiritual guru and LSD pioneer, dies at 88

Guru, Krsna; the combo punch

Dhira Madhava Das shared Pooja Sharma's post.

Caitanya Priya Das 8.MEANING OF “ON MY ORDER, Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā, BE ACTUALLY GURU, BUT BY MY ORDER.”

Caitanya Priya Das shared his post.

The Meaning of Perfect, by His Divine Grace

THIS IS CALLED PARAMPARA SYSTEM ....Srila Prabhupada December 10, 1976

If a devotee accepts Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu as the universal guru and Lord Jagannātha as the Supreme Personality of Godhead Kṛṣṇa, he is benefited by the combined mercy of Kṛṣṇa and guru.

Glories of the holy Names, part 1 : an applicable association with Divine Logos.

The Liberated Soul, talks with Srila Prabhupada, courtesy Suresh Anand Prabhu

Corroborating Krsna dasa's Concerns

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