Ketan Natekar has completed his fire sacrifice and is now to be known as Krsna Caitanya Dasa, acbssp, rit.(spi), A.Bh. S. Jaya!! Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare !
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- RE : Punya Das (acbsp).- I have brought it up several times but As It Is hasn't answered. Whenever I try bring up the "greatest exponent of Krsna consciousness in the western world" challenge, to ISKCON members and supporters, their usual response is to evade the issue. If you can nail them down to openly and publicly taking a stand, it's quite amazing the types of responses I've seen. It's the easiest way to ferret out the dishonest "followers of Srila Prabhupada" among us.
Is Srila Prabhupada the "greatest exponent of Krsna consciousness in the western world" - Yes of No?
* Akruranth dasa - Yes, but with conditions. Whatever the GBC decides is the right conclusion.
* Frank Hallenstein (Yuga Avatar) - No - Prabhupada's disciples are greater than Srila Prabhupada? His own words.
* Pancharatna dasa (creator of BBTedit) - Srila Prabhupada title was rightly removed from the 'Bhagavad-Gita As It Is' by JAS. It's unnecessary and unneeded. His own
Lord Śiva told Pārvatīi, "O goddess, if the Spiritual Master instructs the disciple three times on how to act properly, but the disciple still does not accept his instructions, the Spiritual Master incurs no sin, but the disciple does."
gurūs trivāram ācāraṁ kathayec ca kulesvarī
na gṛhṇāti hi śiṣyas cet tadā pāpaṁ guror na hi
(Kulārṇava-rahasya 11)
Not only the Spiritual master should be qualified, the disciple should also be qualified. Only then the process is successful. Therefore without a qualified guru, and without becoming a qualified disciple it is not possible to attain God. So first of all, we must become qualified disciples. Only then we will be able to take advantage of a qualified guru.
What is jyoti-Shastras? 2th part
The Jyoti-Shastras is the key through which man can know his intimate connection to the universe, overcome it and head towards the source, i.e. God. The-Shastras is a system of knowledge of ancient India in use for over 5000 years. The Jyoti-shastras actually exists forever. To fully understand the basic concepts of Jyoti-Shastras, it is necessary to consider the philosophical aspect from which they originate.
Vedic philosophy consists of six philosophical systems: 1) the philosophical system Karma-Mimāṁsā of jaiminī ṛṣi; 2) the system system of kapiladeva ṛṣi, son of devahūti; 3) the philosophy philosophy, of gautama ṛṣi And of kaṇāda ṛṣi; 4) the philosophy, of aṣṭāvakra ṛṣi; 5) Yoga-Sutras of Lucas ṛṣi; 6) the Brahma-mīmāṁsā or bhagavata philosophy of śrīla vyāsadeva. Karma-Mīmāṁsā is the philosophy of ri

Sambhu Das shared a memory.
SB4.28.55
TEXT 55
sa tvaṁ vihāya māṁ bandho
gato grāmya-matir mahīm
vicaran padam adrākṣīḥ
kayācin nirmitaṁ striyā
SYNONYMS
saḥ—that swan; tvam—yourself; vihāya—leaving; mām—Me; bandho—O friend; gataḥ—went; grāmya—material; matiḥ—whose consciousness; mahīm—to earth; vicaran—traveling; padam—position; adrākṣīḥ—you saw; kayācit—by someone; nirmitam—manufactured; striyā—by a woman.
TRANSLATION
My dear friend, you are now My very same friend. Since you left Me, you have become more and more materialistic, and not seeing Me, you have been traveling in different forms throughout this material world, which was created by some woman.
PURPORT
When the living entity falls down, he goes into the material world, which was created by the external energy of the Lord. This external energy is described herein as “some woman,” or prakṛti. This material world is c
Don’t be a fool!
The lowest kind of man is he who comes in the path of bhakti and then turns back again. That is the most condemned person. All those millions of births and he's finally developed sukriti and adhikara to approach Bhakti Devi and then he turns around and leave. This is the most unfortunate man.
Srila Vishvanatha Cakravarti Takhura (Gita Purport)


Thomas Garden shared a post to the group: Hare Krsna Devotees Winnipeg.

A very interesting incident from mahabharat.
Krishna teaches a, lot of practical aspects, via this description.

On December 23rd, 1936, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Prabhupada gave his final instructions to the assembled devotees:
Perhaps many people have considered me their enemy because I was compelled to tell the unadulterated truth. I asked them to serve the Lord with all sincerity. I have given much anxiety to many people only because I wanted to inspire them to serve Krishna sincerely without material desire and duplicity. One day they will understand this.
1. sakale parama utsaha sahakare rupa raghunatha vani pracara sabara
“All of you preach the message of Rupa and Raghunatha to everyone with great enthusiasm.”
2. rupanuga-pada-dhuli haite sabara (jena) carama akanksa citte jage anibara
“May the ultimate desire to become a speck of dust at the lotus feet of the followers of Sri Rupa remain ever awake in our hearts.”
3. advaya-jnana-tattva vraje vrajendra-nandana (mula)-visaya-vigraha
sei sarva-sevya-dhana
“Vrajendranandan Krishna is the principle of non-dual consciousness. He is th

WHY IS THERE SUFFERING ?
Avadhoot Maharaj QUOTED; "Vrajanatha: Prabhu, I understand that this marginal position is situated in tatastha-svabhava, or junction, of the spiritual and material worlds. Why is it that some jivas go from there to the material world, while others go to the spiritual world?
Babaji: Krsna's qualities are also present in the jivas, but only in a minute quantity. Krsna is supremely independent, so the desire to be independent is eternally present in the jivas as well. When the jiva uses his independence correctly, he remains disposed towards Krsna, but when he misuses it, he becomes vimukha (indifferent) to Him. It is just this indifference that gives rise to the desire in the jiva's heart to enjoy maya. Because of the desire to enjoy maya, he develops the false ego that he can enjoy material sense gratification, and then the five types of ignorance tamah (not knowing anything about the spirit soul), moha (the illusion of the bodily concept of life), ma
"The eternal Rasa of Krishna exists spiritually in Chit-jagat, the spiritual world. To we who are in the netherworld there is a screen which intervenes between our eyes and the great spiritual scene of Krishna Lila. When by the grace of Krishna that screen is drawn up, we have the privilege to see it, and again when it pleases the Almighty to drop the screen, the great Vrindaban Lila disappears. Taste the subject and your conviction will be the same as mine. Brethren! Do not give up such an important subject without due and liberal examination.
The soul is His "Vibhinnangsha," or separated part. By soul are meant all sorts of souls, whether animal, human or celestial. It must be understood that Chaitanya Mahaprabhu believed in the very liberal theory of transmigration of the soul.
The soul, according
Avadhoot Maharaj said; "Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur compiled his shiksha guru-parampara to demonstrate how the real guru manifests. His father In the Tattva-sutra , Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur writes that, 'Devotees of the Supreme Lord are not controlled by the scriptures. since their activities are congenial to divine wisdom. Therefore, when the self-realized devotees ordain any new arrangement, this should be followed as a religious code , even if such new arrangements are not found in the scriptural dictums of the previous sages."
"The topics of the warfare in which the Lord engages do not concern the war of death but the war against the chain of māyā which obliges one to accept repeated birth and death. In other words, one who takes delight in hearing the war topics of the Lord is relieved from the chains of birth and death. "
sb/3/14/5


"We have to kill this civilization of mūḍhas. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. Paritrāṇāya sādhūnāṁ vināśāya ca duṣkṛtām [Bg. 4.8]. Those who are actually human being, you have to give them Kṛṣṇa. And those who are mūḍhas, we have to kill them. This is our business. Kill all the mūḍhas and give Kṛṣṇa to the sane man. Yes. That will prove that you are really Kṛṣṇa's. We are not nonviolent. We are violent to the mūḍhas" Morning Walk. Jan. 21, 1976. Māyāpur.

July 31, 1977.
Srila Prabhupada Evening Darsana February 15, 1977, Mayapura) Don't be disappointed. Kṛṣṇa will act through His movement and kill them, these demons. How it will be done, that you cannot know now, but it will be done. Let us remain true soldiers. That's all. And if it is a fight, suppose we die in the fight. The fight means with vow, with determination either to gain victory or die. Because it is fight against māyā, why we shall be afraid of being killed? Where there is fight ,one must know that "Either I am going to be killed or gain victory." Jīvo vā māro vā. Those who are devotees, either they live or they die—the same thing. While they live they are serving Kṛṣṇa; when they die they will serve Kṛṣṇa. Jīvo vā māro vā. Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti (BG 4.9). He goes to Kṛṣṇa. (laughs) So what is the loss? We are working for Kṛṣṇa, and if we die we go to Kṛṣṇa. So what is the loss? Same business.
Srila Prabhupada
" Make your own field and .... act on
WHY WAS SRILA PRABHUPADA MARTYRED ?
Prabhupada: ‘I know. I came here to take their suffering. Even when I leave, I will keep continuing taking their suffering, and make them free so they can keep chanting Hare Krishna"
What if a devotee can not remember Lord Krsna at the time of Death ?
Srila Prabhupada...."So if you become Krsna conscious once, even if at that time you are so-called unconscious, still, Krsna is with you. He is not forgetful. He is not forgetful. Therefore He will give you the proper result. Don't think that at the, at the time of your death, because you are so completely out of consciousness, therefore there is frustration. No. There is no frustration. There is no frustration. Because your activities are already recorded by the Supreme Personality of Godhead who is situated within your heart, so therefore there is no question of frustration. You just practice. While you are in good health, while you are in good body, while you are in good consciousness, just practice this Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, and the result is guaranteed."
Srila Prabhupada's Lecture on Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.7.22-26 -- San Francisco, March 10, 1967
Srila Prabhupada greets his followers at the gates to Vaikuntha;
- "AGTSP! Please accept my obeisances!"
SP; "So, after I departed, you came to know that enemies poisoned me. But you kept on serving the asuras?"
- "I had no other place to go, it was all i knew, and they gave me shelter, we did sankirtana"
SP; "Then I think it is best you stay with them."
- "Where are they, Srila Prabhupada. I prefer to stay with you!"
SP; " It is too late, now, i know you not. Go to Rasatala to join your Gooroo in hell."
- "AGTSP ! Namah om..."
SP; "So, you left the temples, you no longer wore dhotis and tilak, instead you sat at a computor and fought with your dying breath to expose the sins of the poisoners and restore things?"
- "I knew it was almost impossible, Srila Prabhupada, but i just could not live knowing these scum had poisoned you and the worldl!"
SP; "My beloved disciple! Come join me here in Mayapura, in your original pure spirit body, and we will do eternal kirtana together!"

HK. pamho. Now, Gita explains that positivity and negativity are mere materialistic ideas. matra sparsas tu kaunteya sitosna sukha duhka da. ... happiness and distress are like the soon-passing winter and summer seasons. A devotee operates on the principals of devotional service, and that is One, One-pointed, not dual. His/her sole concern is pleasing the spiritual master and Krsna , and is not dependent upon notions of mundane good or bad. That is actual devotional service, nothing less is.
You do not seem to have grasped yet that SP was poisoned to death. No one but SP's disciples are fighting this murder issue. My Godbrothers live isolated lives now, bereft of their services and inheritance. This world shaking injustice must be fought hard every step of the way. We want an army to arrest and hang the killers. Arjuna was not bothered by this positive negative bs after Lord Krsna instructed him. AGTSP.